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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump publicly declared the assaulted women committed a hoax. Can they sue him for slander?
This type of claim would REALLY put their lives even more at risk. He accused them of committing a crime. Especially slanderous since he went on to say they were people who are 'evil'. Just what the delusional RW nutcases need to hear from their leader. Isn't there a plausible lawsuit there?
dlk
(11,578 posts)still_one
(92,409 posts)instrumental in rescuing the children in Thailand by calling him a "pediophile"
In the Paula Jones case Judge Weber ruled that a sitting President couldn't be sued
blm
(113,094 posts).
shanny
(6,709 posts)although in this case there is a distinction:
Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case establishing that a sitting President of the United States has no immunity from civil law litigation, in federal court, against him or her, for acts done before taking office and unrelated to the office."
So. Clearly the preznit in question is in office and ifaik there has been no decision made in that instance.
manor321
(3,344 posts)Of course his behavior is disgusting, but have you noticed how Republicans never back down? They never apologize. And voters don't punish them for it. There is a lesson in there somewhere, especially for people actually telling the truth.
In It to Win It
(8,285 posts)Fuck going high. When they go low, we go lower.
Trumpmustgo_
(11 posts)Its sad the President of the USA can get away with calling a woman that just admitted she was raped evil. The President is the evil one!!!
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)Did I miss something?
Trumpmustgo_
(11 posts)Maybe I got confused. Sorry.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)I saw accusations of sexual assault, but no mention of penetration. Did something change?
Trumpmustgo_
(11 posts)I thought I remember her saying like three or four guys took turns with her. Im so lost now. Thank God she wasnt raped then, although sexual assault cant be much better.
Sorry for confusion.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)Kavanaugh attempted to rape Dr. Ford.
Trumpmustgo_
(11 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)marble falls
(57,240 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)There are already two lawsuits pending against him - Summer Zervos and Stormy Daniels.
RockRaven
(15,003 posts)I don't know how much being POTUS would shield him from a civil suit on this matter, but he'd argue it all the ay up to SCOTUS of course.
blm
(113,094 posts).
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)His contention is that his statements are true. As part of the prima facie case for defamation, she would need to prove his statements were false, i.e. that she did not lie under oath. That can be challenging to prove - especially when, as here, there are no tangible facts to support her testimony.
I'm not suggesting - for a moment - that I think she lied. I absolutely beleive her - but what can be demonstrated in court is a different matter. If I was in her shoes, it would be far more than I would be willing to tolerate.
blm
(113,094 posts)And especially the witnesses she told before his confirmation. Same with Ramirez and same with Swetnick who ALL had witnesses ready to go, but, were blocked from being interviewed by WH.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)She will bear the burden of proving his statement was false.
If I was in her shoes, I would not choose to spend my emotional bandwidth chasing Trump on this matter.
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kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)Azathoth
(4,611 posts)blm
(113,094 posts).
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Then when Trump tries to sue, all the evidence will be discovery.
Brother Buzz
(36,466 posts)MiniMe
(21,718 posts)He has way more money than she does, and he will appeal and appeal and his lawyers will get rich just so he won't have a conviction against him. That is why he ruined so many small businesses, they can't afford all the lawsuits and it ends up bankrupting them. tRump is just a mean, vile man
blm
(113,094 posts)by the millions who want to see justice prevail.
MiniMe
(21,718 posts)And the little folks won't be able to counter that.
blm
(113,094 posts)Some of Fords supporters have far more REAL dollars than the con man in chief.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)That's why he's there after all.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Presently it would be extremely hard to win a libel/slander case in the USA thanks to the 1st Amendment which Mr. Trump presently is seen running roughshod over on multiple occasions.
If Trump were a UK politician, he'd probably be in court permanently for all his lies and slander. Probably kicked out of Parliament too - that is if he ever got in, something Nigel Farage never managed to do.
blm
(113,094 posts)He accused them of a CRIME. Hard to imagine that it would even be possible for him to walk that back. He also has a special position of power over the lives of those he so viciously attacked.
moondust
(20,006 posts)This kind of talk could have the effect of further silencing some women for fear of not being believed, which could then lead to more sexual assaults if some emboldened men are pretty sure their victims won't be believed.
Bfd
(1,406 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,917 posts)The Federalist
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Brett Kavanaugh has been libeled and slandered. For that the law offers redress. He should sue Ford and the Washington Post. For $20 million. Each.
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Absolutely! And Kav would not be protected by a limited scope investigation.
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