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pbmus

(12,422 posts) Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:02 PM Oct 2018

Democrats blaming Avenatti....

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We have a penchant for finding ways to destroy our own...we are being divided, and third parties are becoming more possible in an election where we need every vote...

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Democrats blaming Avenatti.... (Original Post) pbmus Oct 2018 OP

He strikes me as an opportunist, who hasn't been particularly effective. Bonx Oct 2018 #1

Guilty pleas contradict your assertion maxsolomon Oct 2018 #4

And certain right winger(s) posing as Democrats. Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #2

It seems Avenatti doesn't like criticism and is erecting straw men in that post. LuvLoogie Oct 2018 #3

I think Mr. Avenatti can handle his detractors. I rather admire the man and his spunky Glorfindel Oct 2018 #5

+1 Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #11

The trolls are getting to him FakeNoose Oct 2018 #6

Avenatti announcing some big, then delay was grandstanding delisen Oct 2018 #7

His announcement about Julie Swetnick was well within his stated time frame. OilemFirchen Oct 2018 #8

He announce re new witness and then left this hanging for a period of time delisen Oct 2018 #13

Blaming our allies is a stupid move. If I can stomach Manchin for the "greater good" - then others Nanjeanne Oct 2018 #9

Who is blaming him, and for what? Caliman73 Oct 2018 #10

Democrats KayF Oct 2018 #12

I'm agnostic or ambivalent when it comes to Avenatti. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #14

I like the man. Tavarious Jackson Oct 2018 #15

Bonx

(2,065 posts)

1. He strikes me as an opportunist, who hasn't been particularly effective.

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:05 PM

Oct 2018

maxsolomon

(33,360 posts)

4. Guilty pleas contradict your assertion

Reply to Bonx (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:08 PM

Oct 2018

Cohen is now a cooperating witness.

Kingofalldems

(38,468 posts)

2. And certain right winger(s) posing as Democrats.

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:05 PM

Oct 2018

LuvLoogie

(7,020 posts)

3. It seems Avenatti doesn't like criticism and is erecting straw men in that post.

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:07 PM

Oct 2018

It's a bit tiresome and only adds to my skepticism of him.

Glorfindel

(9,732 posts)

5. I think Mr. Avenatti can handle his detractors. I rather admire the man and his spunky

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:09 PM

Oct 2018

attitude. It almost always makes me happy when someone calls rePukes on their shit (FDR, Anne Richards, and the like).

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)

11. +1

Reply to Glorfindel (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:29 PM

Oct 2018

FakeNoose

(32,706 posts)

6. The trolls are getting to him

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:12 PM

Oct 2018

Hell, anybody would get sick of rightwing assholes after awhile. Avenatti is just a lightning rod for those freaks.
Remember to use your troll spray Michael!

delisen

(6,044 posts)

7. Avenatti announcing some big, then delay was grandstanding

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:13 PM

Oct 2018

He needs to get his ducks lined up and announce when he had solid statement.

I think his client deserved better

I think it is best that he and the Dems re seen as distinct. He can do his thing-but it is his not theirs.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)

8. His announcement about Julie Swetnick was well within his stated time frame.

Reply to delisen (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:18 PM

Oct 2018

I haven't followed him closely, though. What delay are you talking about?

delisen

(6,044 posts)

13. He announce re new witness and then left this hanging for a period of time

Reply to OilemFirchen (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:40 PM

Oct 2018

It's similar to Trump's technique of announcing he will have a big announcement later. It might work for Trump but I don't think it works for the opposition to someone like Kavanaugh because it pulls immediate attention from the witnesses already our there and focuses it on the unknown.

Also he did not have all the information from Swetnick that he should have which enabled Kav supporters to smear her (one ex- that ex-boyfriend charges or the defamation suit in her past- You need to know and get in front of anything that may be used to discredit your witness. Best if you control the release of that information yourself. I think Swetnick's story could have been used much more effectively and the opposition smearing of her could have been prevented.

One needs to know everything and never get blindsided-it unnecessarily hurts the witness and the cause. I think it hurt the witness more them it hurt him.

I don't care whether he is out there attacking Trump --it does energize persons on our side, but I think most Dem politicians should keep their distance from him. Their is nothing wrong with having two separate camps opposed to Trump and the rest of the Pugs.

Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)

9. Blaming our allies is a stupid move. If I can stomach Manchin for the "greater good" - then others

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:18 PM

Oct 2018

should be able to stomach Avenatti IMHO.

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)

10. Who is blaming him, and for what?

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:23 PM

Oct 2018

Sounds like he is responding with hyperbole and humor to something, but context would be nice.

KayF

(1,345 posts)

12. Democrats

Reply to Caliman73 (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:31 PM

Oct 2018

mostly anonymous, one on the Judiciary Committee

one of the non-anonymous ones was Sen. Gary Peters of Michicgan:

"Well you know at some point there were a lot of folks coming forward making all sorts of accusations," said Sen. Gary Peters, a Michigan Democrat, when asked about the allegations raised by Avenatti and his client. "It turns it into a circus atmosphere and certainly that's not where we should be."

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Peters said some Republicans pointed to the Swetnick allegations "to distract from the task at hand, which is really about pursuing what are serious allegations, and one that seemed to be credible.

"So there are always efforts whenever you dealing with a serious issue like this, that people want to change the discussion and have everybody chanse another different shiny object," Peters said. "Our job in the Senate, and it should have been the job of the FBI too, is to focus on those that are credible."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/06/politics/democrats-avenatti-swetnick-accusation/index.html

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

14. I'm agnostic or ambivalent when it comes to Avenatti.

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:42 PM

Oct 2018

That being said passive aggressive is never a good look in a would be leader.

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)

15. I like the man.

Reply to pbmus (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 05:50 PM

Oct 2018

I think it's admirable that he stands up for women in the sex industry.

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