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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Who Will Strike First? Mueller Or Trump?
We assume Trump is holding off on firing Rosenstein (and Sessions if he's going to fire him as well) until after the elections so as to not panic voters.
After the midterms, though, I'm thinking Rosenstein gets quickly fired (it matters less what happens with Sessions), Noel Francisco takes control of the Trump-Russia investigation, and it gets stopped for a "pause and review" as Guiliani termed it. Which to me means the White House gets everything in it from Francisco, or less visible staff for deniability purposes, doesn't necessarily share a word of it, and calls the shots from there... while, of course, bald-faced lying that it isn't.
I'd love for someome to explain to me why and how that won't happen. Really.
Reports have been that Hannity Graham and McConnell all three urge Trump to not fire Rosenstein. But (a) are we to trust that those shitweasels' advice extends to after election day, too? and (b) this is man-baby Trump, he's paranoid, impulsive, has no concerns other than himself, and does whatever he feels like.
So I'm working from a hypothesis that after the midterms, Rosenstein is out and Francisco takes over Trump-Russia.
If I'm Mueller, and around about Nov. 1, 2018 I'm still only 85% done with my save-or-don't-save-American-democracy investigation, here's what I think I'd do: Report out to Rosenstein anyway the 85% that I do have done. Obtain the arrest warrants I can get, and that same morning arrest every mf-er I think I can successfully prosecute with what I have ao far.
Hope that Rosenstein can and will actually back the action and share the report with multiple others before Trumpists rush in and stifle him. Also hope that what's out and what's being acted on with indictments will be too much for Trump to publicly call back and quash.
And hope, further still, that somehow all this and the public's demands will compel Trump to let the probe finish... however unlikely that is.
What's Mueller's other choice? It's to not act while he still can, and wait for Francisco to walk in and take the whole thing away from him.
To recap:
What deters TRUMP from executing his nixonian self-preservation power play now, before the elections, is very significant: Fear of spooking so many moderate voters with his authoritarianism move to take control of the criminal investigation of himself that he loses the Senate, too.
What deters MUELLER from striking first is... I suspect, less. It's (1) any harm that moving early might do to the still unfinished parts of his investigation -- and yes, only he can be a good judge of that. And (2) the supposed principle that the FBI doesn't do dramatic things just before elections that might affect them. Well, we've seen how well THAT unwritten rule gets followed.
I can't see how our democracy itself isn't at serious risk here. We can take back one or, long shot, even both houses of Congress. But that's legislative oversight of the executive branch. We still need a federal law enforcement unit able and willing to act. Before 2021 at the earliest, the Mueller probe is our one best hope in that arena.
I believe I'm for major action using the cases assembled so far, by Mueller, before Trump puts Francisco in charge. And that means within less than a month.
Someone please tell me better, more probable futures than either of these two extreme scenarios contemplate.
Thanks.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)senate republicans will have no reason to protect sessions or mueller, then all hell breaks lose as 2019 will be dominated by impeachment of a president, a supreme court justice and the GOP will have to spend the time defending them
Girard442
(6,075 posts)It's hard to see any downside there for Trump with Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court.
SuprstitionAintthWay
(386 posts)They've carefully set this DoJ up so that a real Massacre isn't needed to get control of Mueller. Unlike Nixon, Trump won't have to lop multiple heads to get down to his Bork, Noel Francisco.
Last year, in a heavily opposed, straight party line confirmation vote, the WH rammed hyperpartisan operator Francisco into DoJ's no. 4 spot.
With Sessions already recused and out of the picture, that left only Rosenstein and Rachel Brand standing between Mueller and Trump's gaining control over him.
Billionaires -- Sam Walton's heirs -- stepped in to help out the 100-millions-aire early this year when they basically bribed Rachel Brand out of her Asst Deputy AG spot between Rosenstein and Francisco. She's now an obscenely well-paid head of something or other at Walmart.
And then there was one!
Nobody left in the way except Rosenstein.
Okay, I do expect two executions to occur, they'll fire Mueller too, like Nixon fired Archibald Cox in the 1970s original of this horror film re-make. Still, "just" two heads rolling, not the original's three... there can be a bit less blood in the Trump version.
So much maneuvering, brute political force, and chicanery has gone into putting Trump just one body away from controlling the Trump-Russia threat, I can't see them wasting all that effort and not pulling the trigger on it now.
This week's "I like Rod" bullshit is a head fake. Faking left before going hard right.