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Ricky Davila tweet: Kavanaugh pushing his wife to the side tells the real tale about this predator (Original Post) iluvtennis Oct 2018 OP
Jeeze Faux pas Oct 2018 #1
He's entitled to have his way, doncha know? SharonAnn Oct 2018 #47
eh qazplm135 Oct 2018 #2
Cuz he just pushed her out of the way. Who would treat their significant other that way. You'd iluvtennis Oct 2018 #5
I mean I didn't see a "push" qazplm135 Oct 2018 #6
Get real, he literally moved her aside. Nothing gentle or loving about it. brush Oct 2018 #8
I didn't say it was loving qazplm135 Oct 2018 #11
Not much difference from "moved her aside" and "pushed". brush Oct 2018 #14
except it's not sorta like that qazplm135 Oct 2018 #21
Are you F'ing kidding me? If you dared treat the women (or men) in your family that way, hlthe2b Oct 2018 #15
I don't treat anyone that way qazplm135 Oct 2018 #20
Placing both hands on shoulder to physicially move her is absolutely akin to a shove. Dominance show hlthe2b Oct 2018 #22
sorry I see a clear difference qazplm135 Oct 2018 #24
It is hardly that one motion that leads most of us to conclude he is abusive. hlthe2b Oct 2018 #26
"Particularly in full view of other people." That's a tell dude. panader0 Oct 2018 #28
"nudged"? No, that wasn't a nudge. pnwmom Oct 2018 #59
It was the push of a man treating his wife as if she were a THING to be moved, pnwmom Oct 2018 #35
Exactly! smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #58
He moved to twice.. secondwind Oct 2018 #29
He moved her as though she were an inanimate object Sanity Claws Oct 2018 #30
I am always skeptical of a newbie (3 months) louis c Oct 2018 #34
I agree and wonder if its Moscow calling. nt elmac Oct 2018 #45
I care not one whit qazplm135 Oct 2018 #61
It's not just me... louis c Oct 2018 #62
Yes all half dozen qazplm135 Oct 2018 #63
You must be using "Trump Math" louis c Oct 2018 #64
you're right, it wasn't a half dozen who saw it my way qazplm135 Oct 2018 #65
and 55 who think it's baloney louis c Oct 2018 #67
55 people responded to me? qazplm135 Oct 2018 #69
55 replies here disagree with your pro-Trump position. louis c Oct 2018 #70
LMAO qazplm135 Oct 2018 #72
It was very similar to the way trump pulled on the shoulder of the President of Montenegro. George II Oct 2018 #40
Damn...that DOES say it all hlthe2b Oct 2018 #3
He treats her the way Dirty Donny* treats Melania Achilleaze Oct 2018 #4
I just don't see it. Iliyah Oct 2018 #7
I don't see anything there either. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2018 #9
Yeah, you are. You don't just grasp your wife's shoulder and move her out of your way. brush Oct 2018 #10
I agree with you. The OP is a false narrative. earthshine Oct 2018 #13
No. nt Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2018 #17
Me too. But perhaps he wanted to keep a close eye on Trump near his daughters missingm Oct 2018 #19
He shoved her in a very similar way that Trump did the PM of Montenego hlthe2b Oct 2018 #23
Exactly! I actually posted that further down before seeing this. Very similar. George II Oct 2018 #41
It's something he learned from his boss. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #12
No, it's something they both learned volstork Oct 2018 #16
this was unbelievably rude (well, believably rude) of Trump renate Oct 2018 #31
He was in a hurry to get to his kids to prove he's a great dad on tv lunatica Oct 2018 #18
That's how it reads to me. It's not a mean shove or push, but a let me do the "father" move. The Wielding Truth Oct 2018 #32
Like Carnival CRUZ elbowing Heidi in the face. & the Wingnut Wives just smile and smile!1 UTUSN Oct 2018 #25
She knows what she married. You could see it on her face during the hearings and afterwards. Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #27
A decent person would say "Excuse me," LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #33
Yup, tells you everything you need to know about that pig KKKavanaugh!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #36
If Kavanaugh Behaves this Boorishly in Public While Cameras are Rolling, dlk Oct 2018 #37
He did something very similar at the last hearing, he practically dragged her down the aisle.... George II Oct 2018 #38
I saw that too at the time it happened! HoosierDebbie Oct 2018 #44
Small moments reveal a lot about basic character peggysue2 Oct 2018 #39
The handshake issue has gotten lost in all the other matter treestar Oct 2018 #55
Yep. He is not a nice person. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2018 #57
I hate the guy but I don't see it. We don't need to invent issues. nolabear Oct 2018 #42
they invent issues all the time, everyday, we need to play as dirty as them, taking the high road elmac Oct 2018 #46
So you're arguing that their should be no differance between us and them? Kaleva Oct 2018 #49
+1. Elmac, you need to try to figure out what Hortensis Oct 2018 #52
I have no desire to waste my time on garbage. nolabear Oct 2018 #56
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #43
This is a bunch of nothing. And spreading it would make us look bad. Hortensis Oct 2018 #48
+1 Kaleva Oct 2018 #50
maybe the parallel is the 2017 inaugural when Trump dissed Melania for Ivanka! Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #51
this reminds me of his look of discust at Fred Guttenberg violetpastille Oct 2018 #53
What? world wide wally Oct 2018 #54
Maybe, maybe not Retrograde Oct 2018 #60
Not an obvious shove, like Trump pushing the P.M. of Montenegro JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2018 #68
what a dick gopiscrap Oct 2018 #66
OH, FFS Charlotte Little Oct 2018 #71

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
5. Cuz he just pushed her out of the way. Who would treat their significant other that way. You'd
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:04 PM
Oct 2018

gently snuggle up to their shoulder and say, excuse me honey.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
6. I mean I didn't see a "push"
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:06 PM
Oct 2018

I saw him move her sure, but it wasn't aggressive or physical. And we don't know what he said to her if he said excuse me or what.

I wouldn't have done it that way, but I don't think it was a "push."

brush

(53,778 posts)
8. Get real, he literally moved her aside. Nothing gentle or loving about it.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:19 PM
Oct 2018

No "excuse me, honey", he just grasped her shoulder and moved her out of his way.

No respect at all. Who does that to their wife or even girlfriend?

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
11. I didn't say it was loving
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:38 PM
Oct 2018

nor that I would do it, but it wasn't the sign of a monster either. When I read the word push, I have an expectation of what I'm going to see, and I didn't see it.

brush

(53,778 posts)
14. Not much difference from "moved her aside" and "pushed".
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:48 PM
Oct 2018

He literally grasped her shoulder and moved her out of his way.

Says a lot about their relationship, dominance and lack or respect.

That was just a rude move. Sorta like what we saw trump do during that head of state conference in Europe early in the admin. He just shoved another leader aside too. Remember?

What is it with these people?

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
21. except it's not sorta like that
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:21 PM
Oct 2018

what trump did was forceful and clear, significantly different than what happened here.

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
15. Are you F'ing kidding me? If you dared treat the women (or men) in your family that way,
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:49 PM
Oct 2018

I should think you'd be surrounded by contempt. (and deservedly)

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
20. I don't treat anyone that way
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:21 PM
Oct 2018

because I hate doing anything to make someone else feel uncomfortable or unappreciated.

Particularly in full view of other people.

But he nudged her aside, and she clearly wasn't forcefully pushed, or surprised or took it in any negative way.

There's space between "I wouldn't do that" and "he's a monster."

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
22. Placing both hands on shoulder to physicially move her is absolutely akin to a shove. Dominance show
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:24 PM
Oct 2018

and very very ugly. I'd bet money he is an abuser at home--whether limited to verbal abuse or physical, who knows, but I'd bet it is one or both.

And if you consider that a mere "nudge" then that says something that you might need to consider.

IT WAS A SHOVE! JUST LIKE HIS RUDE MENTOR:

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
24. sorry I see a clear difference
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:38 PM
Oct 2018

between those two situations, just going to have to agree to disagree and I'm not going to make assumptions about his personal marriage life based on that one motion.

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
26. It is hardly that one motion that leads most of us to conclude he is abusive.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:42 PM
Oct 2018

and let me tell you, if you did that to most people, you might well get a very angry response. So you might want to consider your manners around other people. Women will not take men being so abusive--nor should men accept it from other rude men.

Despite RW men thinking such boorish behavior to be acceptable, the tide will turn and soon. So, behave like that at your own peril should be a message for ALL.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
59. "nudged"? No, that wasn't a nudge.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:22 PM
Oct 2018

dictionary.com

verb (used with object), nudged, nudg·ing.
to push slightly or gently, especially with the elbow, to get someone's attention, prod someone into action, etc.

It wasn't slight or gentle. A tap on the shoulder, followed by an "excuse me" would have been polite. Not what he did.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
35. It was the push of a man treating his wife as if she were a THING to be moved,
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:28 PM
Oct 2018

instead of a cared-for human being.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
30. He moved her as though she were an inanimate object
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:52 PM
Oct 2018

He did not show the courtesy that you would expect toward a fellow human being, never mind a spouse.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
34. I am always skeptical of a newbie (3 months)
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:21 PM
Oct 2018

who make excuses for Trump sycophants.

Are you sure you're in the right place?

By the way, those gold stars next to DUers names are donations. Try and make one, it will give you more credibility, especially if you just "joined".

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
69. 55 people responded to me?
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 03:48 PM
Oct 2018

Really? They must all be hidden.

Or did they not seem especially angry enough at my response to respond, or call me a Russian troll...you know, like you.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
70. 55 replies here disagree with your pro-Trump position.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:51 PM
Oct 2018

Send in a donation to prove you care about this site.

Happy 3 month anniversary.

Try to stop making excuses for Trump's people. This is not your first time.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
72. LMAO
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:20 AM
Oct 2018

ProTrump? Saying I don't see a push is proTrunp?

GTFOH with that mess.

And what are my other "proTrump" positions.

Do tell.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. I just don't see it.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:18 PM
Oct 2018

He went to hug his young daughter and moved her to the side so he could.

I am missing something?

brush

(53,778 posts)
10. Yeah, you are. You don't just grasp your wife's shoulder and move her out of your way.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:29 PM
Oct 2018

You say something like, "excuse me, sweetie, let me get by you"...something.

There was nothing gentle of loving about that. It was rude to not say something. He just moved her out of his way without even acknowledging her, like she didn't matter.

That is not how loving couples operate.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
13. I agree with you. The OP is a false narrative.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:47 PM
Oct 2018

I hate this guy and all he stands for.

But, he doesn't push her per se, and she does not seem offended by the "move."

 

missingm

(56 posts)
19. Me too. But perhaps he wanted to keep a close eye on Trump near his daughters
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:05 PM
Oct 2018

Just panicked a little that he lost sight of his arm.

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
23. He shoved her in a very similar way that Trump did the PM of Montenego
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:31 PM
Oct 2018

Do you question that this is a shove? Geebus... What a perspective!

volstork

(5,401 posts)
16. No, it's something they both learned
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:49 PM
Oct 2018

from piece of shit "role models" who taught them that women are decorative and/or for screwing, but don't let them stand in your way (literally or figuratively).

renate

(13,776 posts)
31. this was unbelievably rude (well, believably rude) of Trump
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:57 PM
Oct 2018

It raises my blood pressure every time I see it.

But--and I can't believe I'm defending Kavanaugh--I just don't see what other people are seeing in that clip.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. He was in a hurry to get to his kids to prove he's a great dad on tv
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:01 PM
Oct 2018

That whole shit show was unnecessary. He was already sworn in the day before.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
32. That's how it reads to me. It's not a mean shove or push, but a let me do the "father" move.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:05 PM
Oct 2018

She is an obstacle to be moved. Not his loving spouse who he is sharing, with their daughters, this honor. He's a proven liar but his girls look like they are proud of him. Doubtful that he will change. As for now, I hope he is good to them.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
27. She knows what she married. You could see it on her face during the hearings and afterwards.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:43 PM
Oct 2018

But like a true Republican she will stomach it and stay for the money and power.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
33. A decent person would say "Excuse me,"
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:09 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:44 PM - Edit history (1)

and allow the person to step aside on their own. He didn't even look at her - just shoved her out of the way. If that's how he treats her in public, imagine how he treats her behind closed doors. Of course, we've already seen plenty of examples of his boorish behavior during his testimony and when he turned rudely away rather than shake the extended hand of the shooting victim's father. What a POS.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
37. If Kavanaugh Behaves this Boorishly in Public While Cameras are Rolling,
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:31 PM
Oct 2018

imagine what he’s like behind closed doors after a few drinks.

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. He did something very similar at the last hearing, he practically dragged her down the aisle....
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:31 PM
Oct 2018

....then pushed her toward her seat. It was just before he sat down.

I pointed that out to my wife back then, I'm surprised no one brought it up when it happened.

It's right after the 11 minute mark:

HoosierDebbie

(291 posts)
44. I saw that too at the time it happened!
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:56 PM
Oct 2018

I even rewound that entrance several times to be sure what I saw. It looks like she bumps up against the side of the chair as he forcefully directs her to sit there. She looks a bit cowed to me.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
39. Small moments reveal a lot about basic character
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:33 PM
Oct 2018

This is the same man that refused to shake the hand of a Parkland father who lost his daughter during the shooting. Kavanaugh looked initially surprised then angry, his face showing disdain. During the Fox interview, he wouldn't allow his wife to respond to a question, jumped right in and talked over her. Now this image.

Not a good look. Very revealing, too.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
46. they invent issues all the time, everyday, we need to play as dirty as them, taking the high road
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:02 PM
Oct 2018

will just get you 4 more years of the orange, Nazi, criminal.

Kaleva

(36,301 posts)
49. So you're arguing that their should be no differance between us and them?
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:24 PM
Oct 2018

I'm glad I don't live in your hate filled world.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
52. +1. Elmac, you need to try to figure out what
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:36 PM
Oct 2018

exactly the difference between you and they would be if we acted like them. If an honest man starts copying thieves and liars because it works for them, is he still an honest man? Or has he changed?

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
56. I have no desire to waste my time on garbage.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 04:33 PM
Oct 2018

There are plenty of real concerns and fights to fight. I’m not going to become them, and rolling over isn’t the alternative.

Response to iluvtennis (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. This is a bunch of nothing. And spreading it would make us look bad.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:09 PM
Oct 2018

We need to not cheapen and undermine real concerns with this contemptible confirmation by manufacturing fake "crimes" and indulging in baseless demonizing, -- the kind of thing that some could reasonably say is just as bad as what the trumpsters do.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
51. maybe the parallel is the 2017 inaugural when Trump dissed Melania for Ivanka!
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:33 PM
Oct 2018

Remember? Melania thought he was smiling at her. Then realizes he is interacting with Ivanka behind her. And her face falls into misery.

These men and their daughters. Just sayin'.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
53. this reminds me of his look of discust at Fred Guttenberg
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:48 PM
Oct 2018

and his refusal to shake his hand. I don't think that makes me as bad as the republicans.

I don't like him from his lame year book quotes to his shrug emoji eyebrow furrow to his "Roe v. Wade is established law, until I get a hold of it" I even hate his haircut and I don't like his family.

At this point I think I can say this motherfucker has no redeeming traits. I probably would get mad at the way he put his shoes on this morning.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
60. Maybe, maybe not
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:30 PM
Oct 2018

My husband of nearly 50 years has done this to me on occasion. And I've done it to him. Without knowing anything about their relationship I don't think this one gesture is a lot to base an opinion on.

Unlike his shunning of the Parkland father who approached him and who Kavanaugh refused to acknowledge - that was the first deciding factor for me in the hearings.

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
71. OH, FFS
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:48 PM
Oct 2018

I hate Kavanaugh and believe Ford unequivocally, but this is just stupid.

Not a push. He moved her to give his kid a kiss.

Focus! Far more important things to be concerned about than this.

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