Bet they say it’s fake news.

or changes in what fish are in what areas...

or scuba divers who witness first hand the loss of coral to bleaching.

I'm not from Florida... I lived in Key West (which is sort of NOT Florida) for like 6 months... and scuba dived there many many times.

But just because they vote repuke doesn't mean they haven't seen the changes due to climate change first hand.

I don't know what it will take for them to vote Democratic... I'm sure some do.

Republican to the core. They hate all of those regulations, taxes (especially taxes!) and licenses they have to buy to go out and fish. There are a few, very few who are starting to see the light and are starting to believe in climate change. That doesn't mean they're turning away from Republicans, they're just concerned that climate change may be real. I used to frequent taverns along the Gulf Coast during my travels. My favorite watering holes were in Tarpon Springs when I lived in the area. I generally listened in these establishments just to get the vibe of the people who worked there. You would never want to let them know you were a liberal. Not unless you wanted to end up as chum on the next fishing excursion in the Gulf.

Those knuckleheads.

Said the same thing: "it just came up outta nowhere".

Bullshit. Liars! You could see the weather change for the Ducks cruise 45-60 min before it got bad. Why didn't they get to shore somewhere? Why not pass out the lifejackets?

And for Hurricane Michael - how long has this been on TV now? Outta nowhere? Really?

I have no sympathy.

Folks will say we're mean but I've argued with these numbskulls. One poisoned my dog, stole my Obama signs, and put a glass bottle neck in our driveway. Tell me how I'm supposed to give people like this a pass. They have a net connections, access to the same info we do.

They are MEAN. And fuck them!

Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2

most of those stations have been following the limbaugh denial for 30 years

from republiconradio.org

Normally it doesn't get above 83. I was watching the water temp & hoping no hurricane headed toward us because I knew it would ramp up fast like Michael did.

quite a bit... I don't ever remember going out in 85F water.

That's like bath water warm...

I live in coastal Alabama.
We're finally getting what used to be September weather in mid October.
The times they are a chaingin'.

Middle of Kentucky here. We've had "the dog days of August" throughout September and nearly to the middle of October. There were heat index warnings last week. We'll go from air conditioning straight to heating.

Extremes are the new normal.

helped this to happen . . . " oh shit, sorry, was channeling Pat Robertson there for a minute.

And the climatologist describing the process was working with a much lower water temperature differential.

only they were predicting this for the 2030s... not 2018.

Oops.

(not quite true, some models were predicting this for earlier in this century).

at covering media asses and government asses at the very same time that an effectively cat5 eye was passing over the panhandle and he had no idea how the poor people who hadn't evacuated were faring. The media had reported basically that it'd probably just be a cat2 the entire day before, and locals knew they could shelter at home from that.

Also, far too few shelters had been opened to hold them in case they did need to evacuate, which Williams tried to just blow off with the rest, but his dishonest reporting was exposed by General Honore, in charge at the time of Katrina.

Williams' attempts to deceive reminded me of how he came to be disgraced.

85 degrees.

intensify that much so close to land. In a "normal" hurricane, even though the eye remains offshore and in very warm water, when the outer bands start to interact with land, it usually disrupts the intensification, if not downright weakens it. That didn't happen here. In fact, I've never seen a hurricane remain that strong so far inland. This was a weird one, and I do blame climate change for it.