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Trump is in Ohio praising Robert E. Lee ... (Original Post) Snake Plissken Oct 2018 OP
It doesn't matter, because vlyons Oct 2018 #1
Perfect description of Trump!! nt at140 Oct 2018 #2
He knows nothing about history malaise Oct 2018 #31
He knows nothing about most things. But he was good leftyladyfrommo Oct 2018 #32
That and selling bullshit malaise Oct 2018 #33
Eventually flim flam men get run out of town leftyladyfrommo Oct 2018 #34
That's the moment I'm waiting for malaise Oct 2018 #36
And they are awful. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2018 #37
Tiresome vlyons Oct 2018 #39
I think he is just creepy. nt leftyladyfrommo Oct 2018 #42
Lol. And his "crowd" of 4000. Trump's our big asset. Hortensis Oct 2018 #47
Robert E Lee for AG! ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #3
I think it will be Jefferson Davis as veep. madinmaryland Oct 2018 #38
We need to find a spot for Benjamin Franklin Butler ProudLib72 Oct 2018 #40
The thought of a Democratic majority in the House has him scared shitless. mobeau69 Oct 2018 #4
Rabid as a mad rat foaming at the mouth! Cha Oct 2018 #10
The clip I saw had him not so much praising Lee, but praising Grant for beating him. TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #5
It seems like nobody actually watched the video oberliner Oct 2018 #17
Probably didn't read the article, either-- so go the visceral reactions to headlines. TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #18
The Hill is being a bit ridiculous with this headline oberliner Oct 2018 #19
I watched it. OilemFirchen Oct 2018 #24
Thanks for sharing your perspective oberliner Oct 2018 #25
This rally was in Lebanon, one of the most racist cities in Ohio. OilemFirchen Oct 2018 #26
That is a good point oberliner Oct 2018 #27
Fuck You Trump R.E. LEE Got His Ass Kicked And Your Next , Grassy Knoll Oct 2018 #6
Just Ginning Up His Racist base Stallion Oct 2018 #7
Trump refuses to acknowledge the devastation brought to Florida by Hurricane Michael Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #11
A Traitor Praising a Traitor Stallion Oct 2018 #12
Is this about Kavanugh's beer drinking? Generic Other Oct 2018 #8
That's what I wondered peggysue2 Oct 2018 #21
Get out of my nice state Ohiogal Oct 2018 #9
He also lost the battle of Gettysburg Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #13
Next up for praise: Rommel. Girard442 Oct 2018 #14
Does he know where Ohio Turbineguy Oct 2018 #15
He knows there are a lot of racists in Ohio dalton99a Oct 2018 #41
Did you not watch the video? oberliner Oct 2018 #16
No surprise! LW1977 Oct 2018 #20
Is this the same Lee Takket Oct 2018 #22
Did you watch the video? oberliner Oct 2018 #23
Lee, as a agraduate of West Point, should have been tried for demosincebirth Oct 2018 #28
???? listen to the clip - the only reason he praised R E Lee so much was to show Grant as a DrDan Oct 2018 #29
No the only reason he praised robert E. Lee so much was ... Snake Plissken Oct 2018 #35
lol - he was playing to his base in Ohio DrDan Oct 2018 #46
All I will say is Grant truly believed in the cause of the freedman. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #30
No, he's not stupid. He's a master at manipulating his meathead base... SMC22307 Oct 2018 #43
His base eats that stuff up. Blue_true Oct 2018 #44
In Ohio. He thinks the whole country is the Confederacy. TeamPooka Oct 2018 #45

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. It doesn't matter, because
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:33 PM
Oct 2018

nothing matters to Trump. He just pulls this shit out of his ass, puts it on a velvet pillow, and expects us to buy it, likes it's some rare beautiful thing that he just found. Aren't we lucky? *snark*

leftyladyfrommo

(18,870 posts)
32. He knows nothing about most things. But he was good
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:51 AM
Oct 2018

at money laundering and screwing people over.

I do have to give him credit for that.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
36. That's the moment I'm waiting for
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:10 AM
Oct 2018

Even Fox is tired of his fucking stupid racist and misogynistic rallies.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,870 posts)
37. And they are awful.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:21 AM
Oct 2018

People are just starting to get bored with him. Bored with seeing his face everywhere. And his voice is so hard to listen to. And those weird little hand gestures.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
40. We need to find a spot for Benjamin Franklin Butler
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018
The nickname “Beast of New Orleans” was bestowed on the general, and Confederate President Jefferson Davis declared him to be an outlaw to be executed when caught. General Butler was so detested in the South that long after the war, chamber pots with Butler’s portrait in the bottom were found in many Southern homes.

https://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-american-civil-war-generals.php


He's doing good things!

mobeau69

(11,156 posts)
4. The thought of a Democratic majority in the House has him scared shitless.
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:43 PM
Oct 2018

He's a fucking cornered rat showing it's teeth.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
24. I watched it.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:28 AM
Oct 2018

He did, indeed, say that Lee was a "great general" numerous times. He didn't call him a "formidable foe", as would any other President.

It's unclear what Trump intended, other than to stress, in an equally strident manner, that Grant was a drunk and, despite that, he defeated Lee. And that Grant was "from here" (he wasn't). And that, finally, people are beginning to recognize that Grant was also, BTW, a great general, which was completely unknown during his entire eight years as President.

Imagine Angela Merkel calling Hitler "a great leader" who was eventually defeated by a crippled President who some thought was a secret Jew, but is finally being recognized for his heretofore unknown prowess. That's what Trump just did. Did you watch the video?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. Thanks for sharing your perspective
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:52 AM
Oct 2018

Trump is a moron, but he (or whoever wrote his speech/told him to say this) was clearly trying to make the point that Grant should be viewed positively since he was able to defeat Lee.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
26. This rally was in Lebanon, one of the most racist cities in Ohio.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 02:16 AM
Oct 2018

I don't think it was an accident that his extemporaneous remarks seemed to praise Lee - who Trump also called "incredible". I'd guess that more of his audience were sympathetic to Lee than to Grant.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
6. Fuck You Trump R.E. LEE Got His Ass Kicked And Your Next ,
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:46 PM
Oct 2018

A Little Sad All You Have Are Idiots In The South And Kanye West Lol.

True Patriotic American Will Show You The Outhouse In 2020.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
11. Trump refuses to acknowledge the devastation brought to Florida by Hurricane Michael
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 11:00 PM
Oct 2018

because he thinks Mexico Beach Florida is in Mexico ...

Instead he's spending the week praising Civil War Generals who fought against the United States.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
21. That's what I wondered
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:11 AM
Oct 2018

Using Grant's drinking and success on the battlefield to say something ??? about Kavanaugh's beer drinking and elevation to the Supreme Court.

As usual the comparison is . . . out there.

Takket

(21,625 posts)
22. Is this the same Lee
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 01:15 AM
Oct 2018

That slaughtered countless patriots in a war against the US to preserve slavery? That is who he likes?

demosincebirth

(12,543 posts)
28. Lee, as a agraduate of West Point, should have been tried for
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 02:25 AM
Oct 2018

Treason as well as the other treasonous officers who received their commissions at West Point.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
29. ???? listen to the clip - the only reason he praised R E Lee so much was to show Grant as a
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:05 AM
Oct 2018

better general.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
35. No the only reason he praised robert E. Lee so much was ...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:05 AM
Oct 2018

is because he wants to ensure his base of hardcore racist filth that he is still with them after Thursday's Kanye West trainwreck.

If you think there is any other reason then you haven't been paying attention for the last two years.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
43. No, he's not stupid. He's a master at manipulating his meathead base...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:29 AM
Oct 2018

and knows the wishy-washy middle isn't going to take the time to research "Ohio native Ulysses S. Grant." He's attacking those on the right side of history based on any flaws -- drinking, phobias, etc. -- and the dumbasses will lap it up. Republicans see any potential weakness and set out to destroy: Internet-creating Al Gore and his big house, John Kerry and his thrown medals, Clinton and his sex drive, etc.

I spent time in Sidney, Ohio about 15 years ago and was stunned at all the country and western and confederate crap everywhere. Drumpf is a con man -- he knows EXACTLY what he's doing.

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