I was going to say that maybe 45 could fly over on his way to Mar-a-lago and drop some paper towels.

Besides, he's got to cover up the Saudis' murder of a journalist working for the Washington Post.

And sometimes those consequences jeopardize your livelihood and even your life.

I heard this morning the death toll was 16 and rising.

They're running out of cigarettes, too -- and there's a lot of guns in that area of Florida.

I know that of which I speak -- Panama City is my hometown.

said Cat4.

any storm can intensify rapidly the way Michael did.

165mph Cat 5 in 48 hours before destroying Dominica. It then destroyed several island in the Leewards and Puerto Rico

they really need to start voting in their own best interest. Never has ANYONE ever said that the republican party is a humane and caring party when it might cost them a dollar in donations from billionaires.

All I can think of is people drowning and refusing to reach for a life preserver. They just keep voting against their own best interest and wonder why things keep getting worse for them. Puzzling.

as does the longing after victimhood and the conviction that you are privy to some “truth” that is witheld from nonbelivers. Easy to depend on magical thinking when that’s your foundation.

What kind of country are we? What is the point of having a government at all if we can't aid our own citizens after emergency?

Right now people are angry and hungry and dirty. In a couple of days..


I don't give a fuck about personalities and what Melania said about what Melania wore. I just want our country back. A functioning government.

This is heartbreaking.

I don't live in the path of a hurricane. But I do live in an earthquake subduction zone on top of a leaking nuclear reactor in a blg blue state.

I'll be fucked if those plates shift, and my correct voting record won't save me.

We're all in this together.

The Cult of 45 has made this abundantly clear. They voted for him overwhelmingly. They get what they deserve.

Who is giving out these marks?

marks??? didn't he have a rally after all that destruction?? and having Kanye in the Oval office, this guy doesn't give a shit, as long he is making money and screwing us all.

Of course, AP apologized for the "error." Yeah, right.

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Same thing, just different verbiage depending on the color of your skin.

and load them with food, water, cleaning supplies, health care stuff, gasoline, etc and drive the boat right to the beach, unload it and go get more. Have a couple dozen people do this in an ongoing basis until everyone has their lives back in order.

Since the storm, there’s been no electricity and no water in Panama City. Emergency disaster relief was yet to be seen in strength as of Saturday morning. Residents are growing more frustrated and desperate by the day. Barbara Sanders stood outside her daughter’s unit where she had come to stay during the hurricane.
“We’re not getting any help,” she said. “We need food. It’s just crazy.”
Sanders said not a single relief agency had come by to check on them. Only the police had come and it was to tell everyone to leave. “They told us there’s nothing they can do and it’s gonna take a long time to rebuild,” Sanders said.

night time temperatures are dropping down into the 60s and they're needing warm shelter now. These folks are already exhausted and probably not properly fed and clothed, so we may see a lot of them getting sick.

Let's hope the Red Cross and others get in there damn fast.

under oligarch leadership. It is only on autopilot, more interested in fund raising than relief.

Everything they concentrate on is profit center, especially blood donations. Relief efforts are cost operations; they don't like to spend more than they make. It upsets them. And by them, I mean leadership, not volunteers or people on the ground.

After the debacle of Katrina, they will never see another cent from me.

Didn't know it had gotten that bad and certainly will do research before sending any more contributions, as they've been sending a lot of requests this year.

That's very bad news for America but a sign of our "capitalism and profits first" mindset among many leaders and citizens. That's why they want to privatize our schools and de-fund Planned Parenthood.

Everything must be monetized and for-profit in Repug world......

Those people aren’t going to be voting any time soon.

that we could have designed severe emergency provision facilities to be air dropped into these zones, and that includes remote US territories such as Puerto Rico. Skids of basics could be dropped along with security and emergency medical personnel just to stabilize the emergency and prevent further deaths.

I realize this potential exists and may well be there on paper, but it sure as hell is not being executed rapidly enough. Perhaps this is the proper job for the National Guard which has facilities all over the Country, in coordination with some of our big military bases.

I'm thinking climate change-related events in the future will completely overwhelm state capabilities...... .....

Electrical and communications repairs crews from all over will be there and in the Carolinas, Georgia, and Virginia for months, so best of luck if we have any early winter storms......

I heard the there was massive destruction.

Appears to be a lot of very costly damage there, but thank goodness all the personnel are OK:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/10/11/tyndall-air-force-base-suffers-severe-damage-hurricane-remains-closed.html

and..
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/10/11/tyndall-sustains-direct-hit-extensive-damage-from-hurricane/

Good assembly of tidbits here:
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24178/tyndall-air-force-base-in-ruins-after-michael-fighters-seen-inside-roofless-hangars
(snip)

Thanks for those links.
This is a major catastrophe - I've been looking at videos and you are correct - several areas will need decades to recover


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It will just keep happening, more and worse. And the government has learned it can get away with not rescuing people. A rescue operation requires a functioning government, and the Trump cult is opposed to a functioning government.

These events will become more frequent, more violent and closer together. We will have a South Carolina being hit with high winds and rain from a new storm two weeks after being pounded by a storm.

I believe we should not allow development of the coasts: Return them to a natural state and make them parks.

Many of the Michael victims had just re-built from the last hurricane. WTF???

These people need the help of the federal government...and now..bring in the army..whoever we need to help these people..What the hell is going on? NO FOOD??? We got plenty of food in this country..

Fuck...Help these people out....Mr. Trump, and help them NOW.

by their bootstraps and not look for government handouts. Isn't that the Republican way? That's what they said when Sandy destroyed the coastline of New Jersey and New York. There were 67 Republicans in the House who voted no on aid for hurricane Sandy victims. 67 pieces of shit who don't deserve the air they breathe.

Yeah, these Gulf Coast Republicans are a self-sufficient lot and don't need handouts from the government. That's what they would have told you two weeks ago. I wonder if they're talking out of the other side of their mouths right now?

To be clear, I'm for government assistance for everyone effected by hurricane Michael. I'm not a cruel son-of-a-bitch who would withhold life saving aid from anyone, Republicans included. That's what separates us from them I guess.

Tens of thousands of people are displaced. Infrastructure is shredded. Many gov workers are just as impacted as everyone else.

And that won't change much by election day.

Given the republicans run most of the state gov't, it wouldn't be hard to ratf$%^ minority communities. They wouldn't do that, would they? (sarcasm alert).

People who were left to rot obviously are not going to vote Republican, so the Republicans will not look to facilitate their right to vote anywhere in the disaster area.

Republican. These are Trump's people. What do you want to bet they'll extend voting for a week or more for anyone who lived in the storm's path? They certainly wouldn't do it for a large urban area, but they'll bend over backward to make sure none of their voters are disenfranchised.

I survived a few hurricanes in my time in the Keys. I couldn’t care less what political party my neighbors belonged to; we helped each other.

Those making these awful comments - may you never know such disaster. And please, get a grip on your conscience.

1. I live in a red district in a blue state. No earthquake relief for me I guess. I deserve what's coming to me. Who among us lives safe from all ecological disasters?

2. Even if you hate everyone who lives in an area that voted R, think of the babies. The pets. Think of the fact that it's a mess that needs to be cleaned up. We can't have people living without a bucket to shit in. That is horrific.

3. I have no idea how Puerto Rico would have voted, if they had been permitted to vote. Ask first, donate later? Fuck no.

4. We ARE all in this together. I can't hurt you without hurting myself. It's not just a question of empathy. We are neighbors.

I live in blue Connecticut and my senators and governor believe in climate change--but that doesn't make me any more deserving of aid and compassion. Anything saying otherwise is not only ugly, but can be used to paint us as only caring about ourselves.

Here is a post advocating that red states be denied any FEMA disaster relief at all



https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11278304

Could you point to a post upthread? Maybe i'm not getting it. Mostly I see the "don't rebuild" and "don't vote for Republicans" remarks, which are standard. I've lived through hurricanes and been through a tornado scare. Of course we all want the survivors and disaffected to have all the help they need. Is it a timing issue? Too soon? It's not wrong to say "Don't vote for people who don't help you in an emergency!"

and put up tent cities along with medical wings, mess halls, and engineers.

Treat it like we were invading Iraq or Afghanistan and we'd have it up and running in 5 days.

And it'll be resolved this afternoon

as he farts around spouting lies.

Hey, you lazyass republican bigmouth: Do your job.

And these are the Con's people.
Meanwhile Gillum continues to postpone campaigning while he helps his people in Tallahassee.
The contrast could not be starker.

The difference is like night and day. Lets hope they get woke up and vote them out this time after seeing what they're really like.

That cannot be true

peanut butter and mayonaise on onion rolls with some Fanta Orange soda.

on how to pull big numbers out of his ass.

Really big numbers, only the very best numbers......

Politically if it doesn't get on track in the next 72hr

Are in other countries. And some, I'm sure, are good people. But you know, America first baby!

All he had to hear was mexico and panama and he found a shiny toy to play with.

NOTHING AT ALL.

When has he ever shown empathy, NOT.

Yeah, it would be a chance to show an example.

Seriously, WTF? Did she lose her home in Hurricane Michael?

Link to tweet

His staff sends out these tweets. They try to make him look sane. You can spot the ones he sends himself. This isn't one of them.

He didn't misspell any words, and he used complete sentences. Plus his capitalization is normal.

He doesn't tweet like that. Also, it was posted at 10:02 AM. Not a typical time for him to tweet. His tweets typically come in the evening, and sometimes, if he is deranged, in the very early am.

But 10 am is staff time.

BREAKING NEWS: Trump to travel to Florida to view Hurricane Michael damage at Mar-a-Lago

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211271994

(tis possible this may be a wee bit tongue-in-cheek)

"It hasn't been easy," he noted. "For anyone. But especially for me. Of all the people out there, I have to say I've probably suffered the most because of this storm."

instead he's playing golf in VA.

He and Melanoma only visited Lynne Haven. Then they did a helicopter fly-over, where I'm sure the only time he looked out the window was when the cameras were on him.

Jesus wanted you to suffer. Or else, why would he have sent a hurricane?

I laugh when the panhandle, who has been the slamdunk whenever the state turns red, complains. I got news for you, the Trumps do not see you as any better than the brown people you hate!

Smacks of "Hopefully trump will fuck this up so we can use it against him politically". Which translates to "Hopefully the citizens in the disaster area get fucked so we can use this against trump politically", and that's a damn shame.

The facts spelled out in the article don't even jive with the headline in the article or the OP. 2 or 3 people in the article are complaining and "all the survivors are furious"? My aunt lives in PC and she's not furious. I haven't seen anything on the news about the disaster response going badly. FEMA was in Mexico Beach Thursday, the day after the storm, and I imagine they were in other hard hit areas too.

You can't just shit peoples lives back together after a disaster like this. Anyone that stayed should have had at least a weeks (or more) worth of water and food put away, like my aunt did. Don't say they didn't have time to do that.

Time will tell if the State and Fed response was inadequate but there is no way we are there yet. Some of you are actually hoping this goes badly for political reasons and shame on you for that.

BTW, one of my brothers is one of those 17,000 utility workers down there getting power back on, and another brother is manning a huge Army water truck getting water to people in need. They both say it's a mess and there's no quick fix for any of this, but the response is massive, despite what some people may complain about.