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spanone

(135,838 posts)
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:09 PM Oct 2018

Saudi Arabia: Any US sanctions over Khashoggi would 'stab its own economy to death'



(CNN)As international pressure mounted on Saudi Arabia over the case of missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi, the kingdom came out swinging Sunday, threatening to retaliate and spelling out the ways in which Riyadh would punish the US if it imposed sanctions.

Khashoggi, a columnist for The Washington Post and Saudi royal insider-turned-critic, went missing after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on October 2 to obtain paperwork that would allow him to marry his Turkish fiancée.

His disappearance has drawn international condemnation and sparked warnings from US President Donald Trump on Saturday of "severe punishment" if the Saudis are found to be behind his death. Britain, France and Germany also said on Sunday they were demanding a "credible investigation."

In a statement Sunday on the official Saudi Press Agency attributed to "an official," the kingdom rejected any threats of economic sanctions or political pressure and said it would "respond with greater action."


https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/14/middleeast/khashoggi-turkey-saudi-intl/index.html
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Saudi Arabia: Any US sanctions over Khashoggi would 'stab its own economy to death' (Original Post) spanone Oct 2018 OP
Quite the ally we have there. Trust Buster Oct 2018 #1
Fuck sanctions. This was an act of war. Initech Oct 2018 #2
The ultimate punishment is to have King Murderer charged with a crime against humanity. Renew Deal Oct 2018 #3
We are in for a very interesting week to come. Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #4
That is called a brass set and why are they confident? I hope we can change that. BeckyDem Oct 2018 #5
+1. Mohammed bin Salman's war crimes dalton99a Oct 2018 #6
Monstrous. BeckyDem Oct 2018 #8
What an over-reaction C_U_L8R Oct 2018 #7
How to get away with murder... HipChick Oct 2018 #9
that will give trump cover to say it will hurt the economy....as he already has said spanone Oct 2018 #10
How would we ever know? They no longer do readouts... HipChick Oct 2018 #11
"We have the KGOP repubes* by the short hairs." - Saudis Achilleaze Oct 2018 #12
Trump cares about a WP columnist? BS,he wants crude at 150.00 a barrel for his Oil barron buddies... Bengus81 Oct 2018 #13
Both emperors are naked malaise Oct 2018 #14
Jamal Khashoggi and the bloody bill for Trump's anti-press rhetoric spanone Oct 2018 #15
Don't forget the journalists killed at the Capital Gazette newspaper in Maryland malaise Oct 2018 #18
Fuck 'em. End the war economy. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #16
Nonsense. Under Obama, and with the rise of natural gas, Hortensis Oct 2018 #17
Law is meaningless. The "Ogliarchs" and their minions are running the world. CentralMass Oct 2018 #19
No we just source our oil from Canada, Iraq, Kuwait and Iran instead. roamer65 Oct 2018 #20

Initech

(100,078 posts)
2. Fuck sanctions. This was an act of war.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:12 PM
Oct 2018

Anything less than a full trade embargo is the wrong answer.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. We are in for a very interesting week to come.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:17 PM
Oct 2018

My guess is watch this on stock,Citi Corp. We have seen this picture a few times in the past,and the Saudi's used Oil as their motivator.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
5. That is called a brass set and why are they confident? I hope we can change that.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:17 PM
Oct 2018

Saudi Arabia Wants Trump And Congress To Forget Jamal Khashoggi. Here’s Its Likely Playbook.
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, implicated in the journalist's potential murder, could blunt criticism using the most sprawling foreign influence campaign in the U.S. today.

By Akbar Shahid Ahmed
10/13/2018 04:31 PM ET
Updated 10 minutes ago

WASHINGTON ― Saudi Arabia is facing an unprecedented backlash from the U.S. elite over the presumed murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi ― and it’s threatening an unprecedented offensive of its own to try to turn things around.

Congress is threatening sanctions on the longtime U.S. partner, President Donald Trump is publicly demanding answers about Khashoggi’s fate, and major American businesses are backing out of a high-profile Saudi conference. But as top Americans suggest the U.S.-Saudi relationship may be about to fundamentally change, the Saudis have many powerful levers to pull in their efforts to maintain bipartisan support for their frequently controversial policies.

By directing billions of dollars of Saudi money into the U.S. for decades, Riyadh’s ruling family has won the support of small but powerful circles of influential Americans and courted wider public acceptance through corporate ties and philanthropy. It’s been a solid investment for a regime that relies heavily on Washington for its security but can’t make the same claims to shared values or history as other American allies like Britain. For years, spending in ways beneficial to the U.S. ― both stateside and abroad, such as its funding Islamist fighters in Afghanistan to combat the Soviet Union ― has effectively been an insurance policy for Saudi Arabia.

Excerpt: Representatives from companies like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin argue that to keep jobs at plants that mushroomed across the U.S. amid post-9/11 wars, Congress must almost never use its veto over arms deals. “Because we are in a permanent state of warfare, we have a war-based economy,” said Elizabeth Beavers, an organizer with the progressive group Indivisible.

Arms manufacturers have already told Trump aides they are worried about Capitol Hill blocking more sales over Khashoggi, Reuters reported Friday. That would add to the deals already held up over a Saudi military campaign in Yemen that’s been accused of dozens of war crimes.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5bc20a93e4b040bb4e82b65a/amp?__twitter_impression=true

dalton99a

(81,512 posts)
6. +1. Mohammed bin Salman's war crimes
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:22 PM
Oct 2018

A malnourished child receives treatment at the Sabeen hospital in Sana'a, Yemen, on Oct. 6. Saudi Arabia's military campaign in Yemen has caused famine in the country. (Mohammed Hamoud via Getty Images)

spanone

(135,838 posts)
10. that will give trump cover to say it will hurt the economy....as he already has said
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:30 PM
Oct 2018

by the way, has trump called the prince yet? Oh, yea, he's on the golf course.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
12. "We have the KGOP repubes* by the short hairs." - Saudis
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:54 PM
Oct 2018
* especially Jar Jar Kushcakes & his outlaw in-law Dirty Donny, the republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
13. Trump cares about a WP columnist? BS,he wants crude at 150.00 a barrel for his Oil barron buddies...
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:04 PM
Oct 2018

Bet they're loving every second of this one............

malaise

(269,012 posts)
14. Both emperors are naked
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:06 PM
Oct 2018

The scab is off. Wealth before lives or freedom of speech.
Anyone who interferes is a terrorist.

spanone

(135,838 posts)
15. Jamal Khashoggi and the bloody bill for Trump's anti-press rhetoric
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:08 PM
Oct 2018
In July, President Donald Trump hosted A.G. Sulzberger, publisher of The New York Times, the outlet which is perhaps the biggest target of the president’s years-long effort to delegitimize the U.S. press. In a statement memorializing the White House meeting, Sulzberger said he had gone to the White House with a stark warning for the president: His vicious criticisms of the press, particularly the Stalinist description of journalists as the “enemy of the people,” could reap deadly results for reporters.

“I repeatedly stressed that this is particularly true abroad, where the president’s rhetoric is being used by some regimes to justify sweeping crackdowns on journalists,” he wrote of their exchange. “I warned that it was putting lives at risk, that it was undermining the democratic ideals of our nation, and that it was eroding one of our country’s greatest exports: a commitment to free speech and a free press.”

Three months later, Sulzberger’s warning has proved horrifically prescient. A journalist who lives in the U.S. and writes for a major American newspaper has vanished, with reports indicating he may have been brutally murdered by an authoritarian U.S. ally. And Trump’s apathetic response sends a message to other nations that they can repress journalists with impunity, without fear of U.S. reprisals.

Jamal Khashoggi is a journalist, a critic of his native Saudi Arabia’s oppressive regime who had been living in self-imposed exile in Virginia, London, and Istanbul, Turkey. He has written for The Washington Post’s Global Opinions section since last year, using that platform to lament Saudi Arabia’s repressive atmosphere under its new de facto ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. That outspoken dissent, coming at a time when the prince was conducting a U.S. charm offensive, reportedly earned Khashoggi his wrath.


https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/10/12/jamal-khashoggi-and-bloody-bill-trumps-anti-press-rhetoric/221666

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Nonsense. Under Obama, and with the rise of natural gas,
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:16 PM
Oct 2018

we're mostly energy independent. They can manipulate world oil prices by turning the spigot on their dwindling supply, but there are huge limits on what they can do and either way will hurt them far more. Unlike them, we're a fabulously wealthy and powerful nation.

Saudi Arabia, otoh, has been on the brink of collapse for some time from a number of huge, intractable, mostly inevitably destructive factors.

Someone mentioned brass balls. Well, as this moment in time they might work for MBS since we know that Trump not only has none at all but also is easily played and bought.

There's also no reason to think only the Russians and some among our own kleptocrats have "something" on someone like Trump. I'd ask our cat if she does if I could understand her answer.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
20. No we just source our oil from Canada, Iraq, Kuwait and Iran instead.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:34 PM
Oct 2018

Iran wasn’t responsible for 9/11.

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