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Letting that Marmalade Mussolini lie, steamroll, deflect, and mischaracterize.
What a weak and pathetic excuse for an interview.
Leslie Stahl failed and failed big-time.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)Steve was tough on him.
Much tougher.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)answer questions and who constantly diverted.
Talk to any experienced interviewer and find out how difficult some subjects can be.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)If they couldn't handle it.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)violetpastille
(1,483 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)but hide him from the electorate? I understand your frustration, but this was not a Fox & Friends interview. And the audience will turn out to have included many millions who mostly avoid the news. They need to see him.
Although he got to repeat his lies about "illegal" refugees, he also showed clearly that he is completely unrepentant and unfeeling about his extreme cruelty to children and parents, defended it, and admitted that he is "considering" how to continue it. And a lot women especially who haven't been keeping an eye on this will have been watching.
He doesn't know if the Saudis were involved in the murder of a Saudi dissident inside a Saudi consulate, but gave the strong impression that he doubts it.
Oh, yes, and right after Hurricane Michael and after millions had one day of autumn between summer and winter last week, Trump claimed climate change might be real but might just change right back again, man not involved in any case.
Btw, I was going to make an apricot upside-down cake, but there were no 28-oz cans in 2 supermarkets. There was a small can for $2-something. Looked it up at home, and California's apricot crop was approximately 25% of normal (!) due to global warming. The cherry crop is down 26%, not as bad as the 90% of 2012, but still. Climate reality is coming home to people, and having them connect their problems with Trump (and his party) and refusal to act is a good thing.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)I do not watch the teevee.
I pretty much get my info here and through a few other websites.
fox, msnbc and cnn are on all the time at the gym-- up on the wall- fortunately no sound- but with captions, that I can barely read.
What I see is trump constantly on one of the screens just blanket coverage, ALL THE TIME somewhere.. just as would be the case with a totalitarian dictator........ It doesn't appear there is any push back, about the best is 'intelligent discussion' Well, the time for intelligent discussion is past...
My feeling is that this is seriously psychologically and intellectually and emotionally unhealthy for human beings.
How many people who watch this shit actually see what is REALLY going on... without at least being told?? I don;t know... But I am not to confident about it...
I don't know the answer-- if there is one...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)on, abruptly said no because Trump's become aversion therapy to me also, and went to bed and watched an old movie instead. Then read the short versions, including transcribed remarks, and saw a few clips this morning.
On the plus side of all this, as I'm reading, right-wing "populism is an old man's movement." A reaction against not economic problems but cultural changes. The alt-right movement is younger, but the numbers show it's an "electoral nonentity," in 2016 perhaps 0.02% of Americans. Scientists actually measuring these things say that every age cohort is more tolerant and liberal-thinking than the one before, and at the same time they've all continued to become more tolerant.
So we just have to get through this period of backlash without our government being taken over by right wing authoritarians. Maybe we could offer to buy any young guys around new Fortnite characters in exchange for their "I voted" stickers -- another type of incentive since so many apparently felt promises of nearly doubled minimum wage, affordable college, new good-paying jobs, and healthcare for sick relatives didn't have anything to do with them.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Sit there in his face and argue his points to him--I have to admire that. We know he's too slippery to be pinned down, but at least she showed how he reacts to facts being put in front of him. She kept it moving along and didn't let him go off on a tangent about some minor thing to use up the time. It was probably one of her hardest subjects to interview.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)RandySF
(59,414 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)I saw it as more media normalization of this fool.
LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)I had the unfortunate pleasure of being over a friend's house this morning, and he had Meet The Press
on, and I hadn't seen that crap of a show since Todd took over.
Yeah, that show's a corporate mouthpiece for the GOP, but it's not like I could tell my friend to turn his television off or turn the channel. Anyway, all of the corporate news folks on there, Mrs. Greenspan of course, pretty much normalized toilet-paper-in-chief. They continue laughing off his ignorance, grifting, racism & pussy-grabbing et al. He's not held accountable for ANYTHING he does/says. Corporate Todd had that clown Hawley on whose challenging McKaskill for her senate seat, and he rambled on about how bad Obamacare IS, and he lied while rambling on and on and Todd never challenged him on any of his Obamacare lies. Never asked him WHAT thuglicans would replace Obamacare with. Yet he asked Stacey Abrams of Ga. on and asked her about the Holder reference about finally kicking thuglicans and fighting back, and Stacey stepped away from the trap he was trying to lay for her IE: A sound bite that the racist/Dem/AA voter-suppressing fool she was running against in Georgia could use against her/other Dems, but she didn't give him a sound bite, she only spoke to Hurricane Michael, voter-suppression by her unworthy opponent and the positivity/issues-oriented themes of HER campaign (He said she was on Michelle Obama's side, and she repeated again that she was talking about HER campaign education etc.).
McConnell and RANT Paul never address these torch-wielding, modern day KKK MOB assholes in Charlottesville 👇🏼👇🏼 who toilet-paper-in-chief called VERY FINE PEOPLE, and one of his VERY FINE PEOPLE--White Nationalist James Alex Fields-- who murdered Heather Heyer in his car:
Or, about these tRump-loving, homophobic Proud Boy assholes attacking folks in NY City:
Nope, the corporate media doubles down on and runs with Jeff Holder's comment about standing up/kicking back vs thuglicans
Dorian Gray
(13,503 posts)including the exchange about Kim Jong Un. I think she did challenge him there, and he spoke and looked foolish.
But I say that as someone who admittedly thinks he always sounds dumb and looks foolish. There is little that he can say at this point to change my mind. I suspect his base feels the same.... that no matter how outrageous he is, it won't change their mind about their support.
So it comes down to the middle of the roaders (hard to believe they exist now) and how this appeals to them.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Cha
(297,810 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The problem isn't that people are watching Trump too much but that too few have been taking a good look at him and what he's up to. 60 Minutes had him reveal that he intends more extreme cruelty to children via separations of families on a far larger scale. On climate change, something's changing but it'll change back, not man-made. And on and on. And, of course, he sounded like a fool, but a dangerous one.
All the media are reporting on this interview. We don't know the ratings yet, but they're going to be high, perhaps not as high as the 22 million who watched Stormy Daniels, but you can bet the Republican leadership are all popping antacids over this exposure 22 days before the midterms.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 15, 2018, 08:02 AM - Edit history (1)
he showed his true colors - "we won - nothing else matters" (to paraphrase him) and "I'm president and you're not" (to quote him).
question everything
(47,544 posts)This is no longer the network of Walter Cronkite, Mike Wallace, Dan Rather and others.
This is the network of Oprah and her best friend Gayle King. Fluff. But this is what todays crowd want, I suppose.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)No one has even been able to ask him about his SO many lies...myriad but what about his lying about starting his "brilliant" career with only a million from his Daddy?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)thegoose
(3,115 posts)As Gomer Pyle would say, "Surprise, surprise, surprise."
The media is still all in on the piece of shit.
Initech
(100,108 posts)thegoose
(3,115 posts)But we're trapped. TRAPPED!
MattP
(3,304 posts)dalton99a
(81,637 posts)It was worse than useless - they let him use them
SHRED
(28,136 posts)When Trump said, "We don't know what happened yet" regarding Jamal all Leslie had to do was point out to the buffoon, "You get daily top level security briefings. Are saying you haven't been briefed on these audio and video files the intel community has heard and seen?"...but she didn't.
So frustrating.
Here's another one, "Since you and Jared have strong financial ties to Saudi Arabia can you see how that makes people not trust your judgement regarding punishing that country? They think you may be looking out for your personal interests instead of our country's best interest."
dalton99a
(81,637 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,732 posts)said so himself. He's too smart, does not need to subject himself to those meetings every day.
Exhibit # 236,357 of Imagine If Obama Had Said It.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,505 posts)Saying she kept interrupting and pressing for answers to questions hed already answered.
Its amazing how contrasting the views are. The only constant is that everyone is pissed at Stahl.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)"The truth does have a liberal bias"
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)diva77
(7,667 posts)I didn't see the show
Duppers
(28,127 posts)iluvtennis
(19,882 posts)to normalize him
elmac
(4,642 posts)orleans
(34,085 posts)i thought: fuck that!
didn't watch it.
who gives a shit what he said? it's all bullshit--lies and bullshit pour out of his flapping mouth every time he opens it.
Cha
(297,810 posts)Vinca
(50,318 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)Doesn't matter who interviews him, he's not going to answer truthfully so why would anyone expect a different outcome.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)He did not like being challenged by a woman. I thought she did a great job with him.
maxrandb
(15,364 posts)The correct term is "colluded", or "provided aid and comfort"
It will be important when we finally get around to holding these propagandist accountable in court.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)debased base but he blasts the more sophisticated lies crafted and sold at great expense for more rational and less dependable conservative voters.
The 60 Minutes segment was not Fox & Friends. Its audience included many right-leaning independents who don't watch a lot of news, and his interview did not serve the Republican leadership and their controllers at all well.