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****BREAKING**** The Des Moines Register Which Leans Conservative Republican Party----- (Original Post) sellitman Oct 2018 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Oct 2018 #1
WOW o WOW that's gotta burn MagickMuffin Oct 2018 #2
Not a fan of tariffs grantcart Oct 2018 #3
Iowa currently 3R 1D. It could go 3D 1R grantcart Oct 2018 #4
I'd like to think it could be 4D, 1 Governor, State Auditor and Sec'y of state rurallib Oct 2018 #23
King appears safe grantcart Oct 2018 #28
please don't pop my dream of Iowa being free of King rurallib Oct 2018 #31
Kicked & Recommended spanone Oct 2018 #5
This is BIG! This is REALLY BIG! FakeNoose Oct 2018 #6
Practically all papers endorsed Clinton in 2016, or at least said "don't vote for Trump" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2018 #7
Exactly what i as thinking fallout87 Oct 2018 #9
It's still good news Ohioboy Oct 2018 #13
Boy, did you miss the point Charlotte Little Oct 2018 #14
Old school conservatives are exactly the demographic murielm99 Oct 2018 #16
Turns out the "leans conservative" Register has endorsed only 2 Republicans for pres since 64 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2018 #19
Then that's on the OP Charlotte Little Oct 2018 #21
I don't think trump won, my belief is that a lot of cheating went on Perseus Oct 2018 #34
Cheating. MarvinGardens Oct 2018 #38
I think if nothing else, it's another positive indication of our momentum moving forward LanternWaste Oct 2018 #40
now we need one in ND Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #8
Jon Ralston thinks it is close but Heitkamp still has a chance grantcart Oct 2018 #29
Will the last one to leave the RNC please turn out the lights? lpbk2713 Oct 2018 #10
The Blue Wave is real sellitman Oct 2018 #11
Please make it happen...make it be true. nt Ferrets are Cool Oct 2018 #12
Good news! hostalover Oct 2018 #15
Wow. I've never seen such a thing before. Just wow! nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #17
Souls can be saved. calimary Oct 2018 #18
This is 3-4 days old. lancelyons Oct 2018 #20
That's great news. Let's hope this type of news continues for a few more weeks. mtnsnake Oct 2018 #22
BEST news all week! zentrum Oct 2018 #24
That is reassuring! Equinox Moon Oct 2018 #25
Every single publication in the country endorsed Hillary Clinton. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2018 #26
Yes, and she won. llmart Oct 2018 #27
I agree. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2018 #35
I like it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #30
Awesome!!! Takket Oct 2018 #32
Direct link to the editorial... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2018 #33
"Leans conservative Republican" is misleading. I am a DMR subscriber BECAUSE it leans left. MadDAsHell Oct 2018 #36
Today Lincoln would be a Democrat for sure. YOHABLO Oct 2018 #37
Actually if you can find a way bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #39

rurallib

(62,445 posts)
23. I'd like to think it could be 4D, 1 Governor, State Auditor and Sec'y of state
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 08:17 PM
Oct 2018

plus at least 1 house of the legislature.
Call me a dreamer.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,359 posts)
7. Practically all papers endorsed Clinton in 2016, or at least said "don't vote for Trump"
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 06:51 PM
Oct 2018

and it made fuck all difference. Do you really think there are voters who pay attention to endorsements for Congress but not for president?

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
14. Boy, did you miss the point
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 07:29 PM
Oct 2018

Trump's base may not pay attention, but you better believe some old school conservatives will.

Every vote counts. Every. Single. Vote.

If one republican is swayed, that's one more vote toward turning this ship around and getting the country out of this destructive storm we're in.

This is not 2016 and this country is no longer recognizable.

While the deplorables don't care, the majority of the country (dem, repub, indep) do.

murielm99

(30,756 posts)
16. Old school conservatives are exactly the demographic
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 07:41 PM
Oct 2018

that still get most of their news from newspapers. That is a respected conservative paper, too. I live fairly close to the Iowa border and we have property in Iowa.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,359 posts)
19. Turns out the "leans conservative" Register has endorsed only 2 Republicans for pres since 64
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 07:48 PM
Oct 2018

Nixon in 72, and Mitt Romney. https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/10/15/endorsement-follows-series-editorials-opposing-trump/92027584/

So, no, I don't think old school conservatives will pay attention to this. If they haven't noticed Trump is a criminal bigot with the Republicans doing whatever he wants them to from the news, they won't be swayed by endorsements from a paper that actually leans Democratic.

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
21. Then that's on the OP
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 07:56 PM
Oct 2018

If they aren't actually leaning conservative, then no, the conservatives won't.

But that kind of goes without saying and means nothing with respect to my point. My point is that if conservative newspapers, commentators, etc. denounce Trump and suggest voting GOP out, it WILL make a difference.

I know it's not sexy enough for MSM coverage, but there are former Trump voters who deeply regret it. Those are the voters who can (and I hope will) switch on a dime.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
34. I don't think trump won, my belief is that a lot of cheating went on
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 09:33 PM
Oct 2018

Not only the Russians, but the hackable voting system in the USA has allowed the cheating to go on, it can be detected, it should be a no-brainer, and that is one thing that has made me very upset about democrats, I don't see the fight to prevent that from happening.

An example...the disenfranchising in Georgia, this is not the fist time Kemp has done it, why haven't the democrats been ready for it? Why has it been allowed to happen again? Why wasn't he sued earlier to remove him from the secretary role?

Why is it that democrats are not fighting to get rid of the electoral college? Why have they not fought to demand sample papers from the electronic voting machines? Why is it that democrats have not demanded that firewalls be set behind the voting machines to prevent hacking?

I am very concerned that all of what I mentioned, and we all know there is more, could affect the outcome in November. So far all the polls point to positive results for democrats, in both the house and senate, why is it that democrats are not protecting that lead with processes that can prevent the cheating, which we all know WILL take place.

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
38. Cheating.
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 11:49 AM
Oct 2018

Georgia & Kemp: They were ready. Multiple lawsuits are pending. We are used to this crap in the South. It sucks, but the Dems are not in charge here.

Electoral college: Ever hear of the national popular vote compact? It's a viable solution. Another would be to increase the size of the House, and I'd like to hear more folks proposing it. Abolishing the EC outright will be nearly impossible, and that's why you don't hear Dems talking about it. It's a waste of time.

Paper ballots: According to this article, only 5 states still have electronic voting with no paper trail. GA is one, and there are plans in the works to change it by 2020.

https://politics.myajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/can-georgia-electronic-voting-machines-trusted/QQbzOXGzieODS64yu6cFjJ/

Firewalls: Voting machines in GA are not connected to the internet, per the above article. It's that way in most places, is my understanding.

My personal belief is that blaming our election losses on the other side cheating will tend to discourage folks on our side from voting. Yes, their dirty tricks must be called out, but most important is to let everyone know that their vote matters and is important.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. I think if nothing else, it's another positive indication of our momentum moving forward
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 12:10 PM
Oct 2018

I think if nothing else it's another positive indication of our momentum moving forward into the final weeks of the campaign.

It's an additional illustration of the consequences of our energy and drive, rather than the lethargy and hopeless, empty criticisms we're often faced with.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,409 posts)
8. now we need one in ND
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 06:52 PM
Oct 2018

Some "conservative" news outlet in North Dakota needs to step up and call out the vote suppression going on there.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
26. Every single publication in the country endorsed Hillary Clinton.
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 08:51 PM
Oct 2018

Papers and magazines that hadn’t endorsed a Democrat since the 1800’s went with her.

And yet, here we are.

Turnout is the only thing that matters.

llmart

(15,552 posts)
27. Yes, and she won.
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 09:07 PM
Oct 2018

I'll never believe otherwise. It may take awhile, even years, but the truth about how Dump ended up in the WH will eventually come out. Some of it already has.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
35. I agree.
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 10:30 PM
Oct 2018

But it never should have been close enough for them to steal. An imbecile like Тяцмр would have been shut out in an even halfway reasonable country.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
33. Direct link to the editorial...
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 09:30 PM
Oct 2018
The Register's endorsements for Congress: GOP has failed to govern; give Democrats a chance
The Register's editorial Published 6:00 p.m. CT Oct. 13, 2018

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/2018/10/13/register-endorsements-congress-gop-failed-govern-democrats-finkenauer-axne-loebsack-scholten/1594065002/

(snip)
The Republican majority has twiddled its thumbs while President Trump started a trade war with China, imposing tariffs and provoking retaliation that is hurting Iowa farmers by threatening export markets. They have even allowed the Farm Bill to expire, leaving town without resolving differences.

Some have argued that this election should be a referendum on President Trump. We disagree. This is about Congress, which has abdicated much of its constitutional duty and has failed to provide a check and balance to the executive branch.

Not only has the party failed to act as a check on the president, key Republicans have been complicit in trying to obstruct and undermine the investigation of a foreign power’s interference in a U.S. election. And by their silence they have tacitly endorsed the president’s racism, misogyny, white nationalism, divisiveness and crudity.

Highly refreshing to read this coming from the fly-over farm belt!

My new word for the day: crudity......
 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
36. "Leans conservative Republican" is misleading. I am a DMR subscriber BECAUSE it leans left.
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 12:00 AM
Oct 2018

I’m curious what Schaefer is using as his reasoning for believing that the Des Moines Register leans right. I think the DMR has endorsed exactly 1 Republican for President since the early 70’s. Obviously the thought of a conservative paper endorsing Democrats is a great headline, but the facts just don’t seem to support his label.

bucolic_frolic

(43,259 posts)
39. Actually if you can find a way
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 12:09 PM
Oct 2018

to erase the gilt on Old Abe's presidency, the one put there by northern business interests seeking unbridled freedom and exploitable labor to grab their fortune, and see Lincoln for the Big Business corporate lawyer/front man he really was, this wouldn't seem so surprising.

I suggest "Six Encounters with Lincoln" by Elizabeth Brown Pryor. She makes Abe seem like a racist hack or hick.

https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/Book-Reviews/2017/0707/Six-Encounters-with-Lincoln-challenges-America-s-view-of-its-16th-president

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