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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:22 AM Oct 2018

GOPrs will never admit that corporate and top marginal tax cuts are horrible ideas for the economy

Taxes should be wielded as a cudgel to force investment in society... We did that in the 1950s, when built post-war America and the Middle Class, along with a organized labor.

Instead, we've given all that away and handed it to the oligarchs, thanks to the Republicans.

Instead of living with a high quality of life that worthy of living in the "Greatest Country Ever," American workers are barely existing month-to-month. If the GOPrs prevail in November, they intend to cut deeper, gutting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and repeal the ACA.

They're exploding the debt and the deficit with a giveaway tax cut to their corporate masters and intend to double-down on that folly again.

They're presiding over the greatest upwards transfer of wealth since... I don't know since when. I've never seen anything like this in my entire life. And pretty much half the electorate of mostly ignorant, angry and fearful white people are just going to hand it over to them with a scowl.

This needs to be stopped, unless we'll see our own self-destruction.

It's madness to allow the GOPrs free rein in the crucial time... And I haven't even touched on their unwillingness to do something about foreign attacks on or democracy, the way that they ignore the clear and present dangers of climate change and the generalized way that they're leading the nation into fascism.

If anything, it's quite clear that the Republican Party in its present iteration is overdue to be destroyed.

It's amazing that it hasn't happened already.

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GOPrs will never admit that corporate and top marginal tax cuts are horrible ideas for the economy (Original Post) MrScorpio Oct 2018 OP
Re-distribution of wealth, dollar by dollar. It's a slow process to extract marginal "wealth" Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #1
Tax cuts pay for "themselves"... Who are themselves? populistdriven Oct 2018 #5
Tax cuts for the top pull from the middle and bottom SHRED Oct 2018 #2
Pretty much right on. Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #3
Republicans passed the Tax Cuts (for the Super Rich) to get campaign contributions populistdriven Oct 2018 #4

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
1. Re-distribution of wealth, dollar by dollar. It's a slow process to extract marginal "wealth"
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:25 AM
Oct 2018

from the poor and under-employed...but, they have all the time in the world. Money makes for largess and comfortable living while the process happens.

populistdriven

(5,644 posts)
5. Tax cuts pay for "themselves"... Who are themselves?
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 03:00 PM
Oct 2018

Themselves is code for the campaign contributions from the super rich to the Republicans... PAID FOR.

Themselves is also code for interest payments to the super rich Americans who hold most of the debt... PAID FOR TWICE.

(yes, Rich Americans hold more IOU's than Chinese)

So they keep billions not paid as taxes and to pay for it they take their new billions, buy up the billions in government debt that paid for the tax cuts, and profit off their profits at the expense of our children.

(their children get to keep their parents billions, our children will borrow from their children for student and consumer loans)

So then their children will continue to profit nicely.



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Pretty much right on.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 12:26 PM
Oct 2018

And that half a percentage point might be a stretch . With a Service Based Economy,it might be zero or minus.

Some real ugly numbers about Housing today,sure looks like the slide is now three months along. Autos are in total free fall,inventories look ugly.

populistdriven

(5,644 posts)
4. Republicans passed the Tax Cuts (for the Super Rich) to get campaign contributions
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 02:42 PM
Oct 2018

McConnell said precisely that during tax cut bill "debate" and everyone has the video so why isn't it in campaign ads?

The Radical Republican Agenda on Taxes

Incomes have been growing fastest at the top of the income scale for 40 years. Starting with Reagan, the series of Republican tax cuts has mostly benefitted the rich.

“An April 2004 CBO study showed that between 1979 and 2001 (the last year CBO examined), the average after-tax income of the top one percent of households rose by 139 percent ($409,000) after adjusting for inflation, compared to a 17-percent ($6,300) increase for the middle fifth of households and an 8-percent ($1,100) increase for the bottom fifth.”

"The magnitude of the income tax cuts and the change in tax rates under the Reagan-Bush-Bush regimes is important but there is more to the story. It’s also important to look at what taxes have already been cut: capital gains tax rates; taxes on dividend income; repeal of the estate tax in 2010; increased business depreciation schedules etc. Each of these changes favors those with investment income over those with labor income, thus magnifying the effect of the reduction of income tax rates."

Stop Coddling the Super-Rich
Income and Wealth: How Rich are the Super Rich?
http://zfacts.com/node/118
How “Voodoo” Caused Most of the National Debt
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html










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