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RandySF

(59,279 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 06:52 PM Oct 2018

CA-SEN: Poll finds De Leon draws most of his support from Republicans

Senate candidate Kevin de León has campaigned as the progressive alternative to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, but with the election just weeks away, his strongest support is coming from Republicans, according to a new USC-Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll.

De León planned his campaign as an insurgency from the left against his fellow Democrat, but a funny thing happened on the way to the revolution: The battle over Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court made Feinstein, the senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, a high-profile target of President Trump.

On conservative media, commentators have urged California Republicans to cast ballots against Feinstein as retribution.

The poll, which was in the field while the Kavanaugh fight raged, can’t show cause and effect, but does clearly indicate an unexpected twist in the race: De León, one of the most liberal candidates to run statewide in a general election, now gets more support from registered Republicans than from liberal Democrats.

“It is a profound irony, given the rationale of his campaign, that De León is getting more support from Trump supporters,” said Robert Shrum, co-director of USC’s Center for the Political Future. “He’s doing better among people who fundamentally disagree with his message than people who agree with his message.”


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-usc-latimes-poll-senate-20181018-story.html



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CA-SEN: Poll finds De Leon draws most of his support from Republicans (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2018 OP
Trump Supporters hate women so they are voting "their issues" JI7 Oct 2018 #1
Deja vu RandySF Oct 2018 #3
Not really a surprise SoCalNative Oct 2018 #2
De Leon is very progressive. Would not be tragic if he won. diva77 Oct 2018 #4
They just want to punish her over Kavanaugh. RandySF Oct 2018 #5
Don't let them have a highly qualified progressive as a senator? It's their problem if they see diva77 Oct 2018 #6
He was endorsed by our state party. I'd be fine with him winning, but that's unlikely. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #8
Agree 100% diva77 Oct 2018 #9
Which--given the overwhelming preference of Democratic voters for Dianne Feinstein-- Small-Axe Oct 2018 #16
I think it's more a case of de Leon being a member of our state legislature and people feeling... Garrett78 Oct 2018 #18
We'll need to agree to disagree over whether de Leon is a good or bad choice... Small-Axe Oct 2018 #21
It was more a small clique of delegates who showed up in Oakland RandySF Oct 2018 #26
That's not my take on the situation - progressives have been working hard for years to be involved diva77 Oct 2018 #22
How is the Central Committee not out of touch with CA Democrats.. Small-Axe Oct 2018 #25
It was small, but backed meeting of a part of the committee RandySF Oct 2018 #27
Correct that the endorsement doesn't reflect the party. Small-Axe Oct 2018 #29
Yes! That's exactly right. This poll pretty much proves it. R B Garr Oct 2018 #32
Unless DeLeon is a stealth Putin-plant (!), this has "backfire" stamped all over it. VOX Oct 2018 #7
So we join Republicans in defeating an incumbent Democrat? RandySF Oct 2018 #10
It's not post hoc, ergo prompter hoc. California Democrats have been... VOX Oct 2018 #11
But that's what a vote for De Leon is. RandySF Oct 2018 #12
As long as DeLeon (should he win) serve as a liberal democrate what's the problem? Merlot Oct 2018 #13
So by voting for an ultra-liberal, Hispanic Democratic candidate, I'm joining Republicans??? VOX Oct 2018 #14
If we were "ready for a change" Codeine Oct 2018 #23
The California Democratic Party endorsed de Leon over Feinstein. VOX Oct 2018 #33
Cool story Takket Oct 2018 #15
I think it's a hoot that to do anything "meaningful" with their vote... roamer65 Oct 2018 #17
But if he wins I suspect some people will try to spin it as a victory for the left and claim that StevieM Oct 2018 #19
Polls show Feinstein winning comfortably by double digits oberliner Oct 2018 #20
Good. It will burn their asses even more Codeine Oct 2018 #24
So are you saying DeLeon wins will he switch to repuke if the dems retain the senate. kimbutgar Oct 2018 #28
I'm a Democrat for De Leon. David__77 Oct 2018 #30
yes the outcome sounds like a win - win lol nt msongs Oct 2018 #31
What a shock Hekate Oct 2018 #34

JI7

(89,276 posts)
1. Trump Supporters hate women so they are voting "their issues"
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 06:55 PM
Oct 2018

by wanting to try to hurt feinstein for what she did with the kavanaugh case.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
2. Not really a surprise
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 06:56 PM
Oct 2018

They don't have a dog in the fight, but they hate Feinstein so much they will vote for her opponent to try and unseat her.

diva77

(7,660 posts)
4. De Leon is very progressive. Would not be tragic if he won.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 06:58 PM
Oct 2018

As for the rethugs supporting him, maybe they've inhaled too many fumes from burning nikes and taylor swift cds

diva77

(7,660 posts)
6. Don't let them have a highly qualified progressive as a senator? It's their problem if they see
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 07:04 PM
Oct 2018

their vote as a way to punish Feinstein. I see it as a vote for a progressive.

 

Small-Axe

(359 posts)
16. Which--given the overwhelming preference of Democratic voters for Dianne Feinstein--
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:18 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Fri Oct 19, 2018, 09:20 PM - Edit history (1)

puts the judgment of the CA State Democratic Central Committee in grave doubt.

At best this endorsement of De Leon shows the committee is very out of touch with Democratic voters and at worst that it has been infiltrated by "activists" who seek to hijack the party.

CA Democrats need to wake up and make sure our party isn't hijacked by the Green Tea Party with the help of Republicans.

The good news is Dianne Feinstein will be re-elected.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. I think it's more a case of de Leon being a member of our state legislature and people feeling...
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:59 PM
Oct 2018

...like it's time for a change. de Leon is not a bad option by any means. He's the leader of the State Senate. He's not some random activist off the street. But Feinstein obviously has much more name recognition, and she's the incumbent.

 

Small-Axe

(359 posts)
21. We'll need to agree to disagree over whether de Leon is a good or bad choice...
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 09:25 PM
Oct 2018

...but it is very clear that Dianne Feinstein is the overwhelmingly choice of Democratic voters, so the "people" are not feeling it is time for a change. Instead we have a CA Central Committee that is out of touch with the will of the people and that is worrisome to this Democrat.



diva77

(7,660 posts)
22. That's not my take on the situation - progressives have been working hard for years to be involved
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 09:33 PM
Oct 2018

with the Central Comm. It's not a hijacking and the progressives are not "out of touch" with the voters.

 

Small-Axe

(359 posts)
25. How is the Central Committee not out of touch with CA Democrats..
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:02 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)

if so-called "progressives" made an endorcement that flys in the face of Democratic voters?

Democrats overwhelmingly support Dianne Feinstein. This move is prima facia evidence that the Central Committee has been taken over by activists who don't reflect the will of CA Democratic voters.

This isn't a close call.

RandySF

(59,279 posts)
27. It was small, but backed meeting of a part of the committee
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:07 PM
Oct 2018

that swung the endorsement. They did not reflect the party at all.

R B Garr

(16,991 posts)
32. Yes! That's exactly right. This poll pretty much proves it.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 10:01 AM
Oct 2018

The draw for Republicans is to divide Democrats.

The endorsement of California Democrats Committee is by the activists desperate to score here in very liberal California. But it looks like liberal California voters are more interested in winning than playing message games based on the election results.

Great post. You nailed it.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
7. Unless DeLeon is a stealth Putin-plant (!), this has "backfire" stamped all over it.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 07:05 PM
Oct 2018

Even older CA Democrats, who’ve appreciated what Diane Feinstein has done over the decades, are ready for a change. She’s a centrist, and tends to avoid scrapping with opponents. All in a time when we need tough fighters who aren’t afraid to go after the assholes-in-power.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
11. It's not post hoc, ergo prompter hoc. California Democrats have been...
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 07:25 PM
Oct 2018

Wanting a more vocal, liberal senator for several years now. Nobody’s joining anything to do with Republicans.

Diane’s been a fine public servant, but she’s 85 years old and was fitted with a pacemaker last year. Over the years, there’s been controversies involving her husband's government contracts (which look like chicken feed now, compared to 45’s profiteering).

I’d rather have another senator (in this vastly underrepresented state of nearly 40 million) who can bring the energy and focus of Kamala Harris. That’s all there is to it.

RandySF

(59,279 posts)
12. But that's what a vote for De Leon is.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 07:28 PM
Oct 2018

A vote WITH Republicans to oust a vocal Trump/Kavanaugh critic.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
13. As long as DeLeon (should he win) serve as a liberal democrate what's the problem?
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 07:49 PM
Oct 2018

Actually it would be kind of funny if the repubs in all their wisdom got rid of a centrist democrat and replaced her with a liberal.

When I read this headline my thought was that DeLeon was trying to court repubs which is a deal braker. But if repubs are just using this to exact sometype of "revenge" well then, fine by me.

I like Feinstein, have not had any problem with her though I wish she hadn't run again. Still not decided on who I'm voting for...wish DeLeon could make a stronger case than "it's time for change."

VOX

(22,976 posts)
14. So by voting for an ultra-liberal, Hispanic Democratic candidate, I'm joining Republicans???
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 07:56 PM
Oct 2018

I cannot control what Republicans do or don't do. This is a lose-lose proposition for them, whatever happens. But I urge you to read De Leon's endorsements via the link below. This is NOT a guy Republicans would love.

https://www.kevindeleon.com/endorsements/

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
23. If we were "ready for a change"
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 09:56 PM
Oct 2018

Feinstein wouldn’t be winning by a comfortable margin even with the useful idiots on the Right supporting deLeon, now would she?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
33. The California Democratic Party endorsed de Leon over Feinstein.
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 03:58 PM
Oct 2018

Polls aside, if de Leon was a Republican stalking-horse, the California Democratic Party wouldn’t have endorsed him now, would they? This is a win-win for Democrats— if Feinstein’s re-elected, great (although her age/health at 85 is a concern; if she’s unable to perform at any point, we’ll get someone we didn’t vote for). If de Leon bucks the polls and gets elected, great. This is a non-issue issue. California will have a Democratic senator, regardless.

Whatever Republicans do will have no consequence. If they should tip the vote away from Feinstein and make de Leon the winner, then they’ve done something historically stupid: in exacting “revenge” for Kavanaugh, California will have a senator who’s even more liberal than Diane Feinstein. Republicans couldn’t even celebrate a gambit that insane, even for them. What could they say? “Well, we knocked out our archenemy Feinstein, didn’t we? And now those leftists will be stuck with a far-out, liberal Hispanic socialist. What a great victory for Republicans and conservatives not only in California, but aross the country!”

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-senate-feinstein-de-leon-endorsement-20180714-story.html
In rebuke of Dianne Feinstein, Kevin de León wins endorsement of California Democrats in Senate race
By PHIL WILLON
JUL 14, 2018
California Democratic Party leaders took a step to the left Saturday night, endorsing liberal state lawmaker Kevin de León for Senate in a stinging rebuke of Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

De León’s victory reflected the increasing strength of the state party’s liberal activist core, which was energized by the election of Republican Donald Trump as president.

The endorsement was an embarrassment for Feinstein, who is running for a fifth full term, and indicates that Democratic activists in California have soured on her reputation for pragmatism and deference to bipartisanship as Trump and a Republican-led Congress are attacking Democratic priorities on immigration, healthcare and environmental protections.

De León, a former state Senate leader from Los Angeles, received 65% of the vote of about 330 members of the state party’s executive board — more than the 60% needed to secure the endorsement.

Feinstein, who pleaded with party leaders meeting in Oakland this weekend not to endorse any candidate, received 7%, and 28% voted for “no endorsement.”
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roamer65

(36,747 posts)
17. I think it's a hoot that to do anything "meaningful" with their vote...
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 08:25 PM
Oct 2018

they have to vote for solid liberal Democrat like DeLeon. They are screwed either way on this one.

I love how the system out there is quite often excluding Repukes from the general elections.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
19. But if he wins I suspect some people will try to spin it as a victory for the left and claim that
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 09:09 PM
Oct 2018

she lost because the voters wanted to punish her for not embracing a Bernie Sanders-style future for the country.

kimbutgar

(21,211 posts)
28. So are you saying DeLeon wins will he switch to repuke if the dems retain the senate.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:33 PM
Oct 2018

I smell A Rat.

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
34. What a shock
Sat Oct 20, 2018, 04:13 PM
Oct 2018
Which begs the question: Who was mucking around with that California Dem Party endorsement anyway?
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