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Dear @SaudiEmbassyUSA: While Kushner & @realDonaldTrump may be in your pocket, the American people & Congress are not. We will still be here when Kushner & Trump leave.
If you want the US to be a good ally, you need to stop disrespecting us with ridiculous lies. We're not stupid
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RockRaven
(14,990 posts)once TrumpCo is gone. For everything, not just the Saudis and Jamal Khashoggi. Democratic voters need to be persistent, even after we regain power.
The way Ford and Obama handled the misdeeds of their predecessors it absolutely unacceptable in re Trump and his successor.
vi5
(13,305 posts)Sadly, any time after we win elections that Democrats attempt to hold our elected officials accountable we are called Republican trolls, told we would rather have Republicans in charge or told that Republicans would be worse.
We're told "Let them handle it. They got this!" or even more condescendingly "They are the ones that know how all this works, much better than you!"
But then when we let them handle it, and their approaches either fail miserably or (as with the ACA) are so neutered and watered down that they are quickly and easily dismantled when we are out of power we are told "Well why didn't YOU do something about it!!!"
The implication seems to literally be that if we all were just bigger cheerleaders and clapped louder for even the most tenuous and hollow victories that somehow those things would be more successful.
And that's not even getting into the fact that even when we are in charge, any legislation or accomplishments are only allowed to be as progressive or liberal as our absolute most conservative Senator or rep, because Heaven forbid we ask them to do anything in the heare and now that may or may not slightly hurt their re-election chances 6 year sfrom now.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)the Russiapublicans will just come back again and again with bigger crimes each time.
Initech
(100,100 posts)We got to start standing up to our abusers and kick them in the ass. They've gone way too far and it's way past time they got severely punished for it.
vi5
(13,305 posts)I know the Obamas are extremely smart people. Brilliant even. So why do they continue to push this "high road" approach that they, above anyone else in the country should know.....does not work. Not only doesn't work but actively allows and enables the bad things that Republicans have done because they know they will get away with it.
Is it just that they are overly concerned with their "post partisan" legacy and just refuse to admit that it's never going to happen and has for the most part been a failure?
Do they just live in that much of a bubble that they are shielded from the ways that this approach has failed?
Do they just pay too much attention to the DC Beltway media which still insists that what the people want is bipartisanship above all else?
It can't be that they are naive can it? They are far too smart for that.
Either way......Holder is right and the Obama's are wrong on this one. I applaud the degree to which they genuinely wanted to give it a shot. But we need to course correct in the face of clear and obvious evidence that an approach has failed and it could not possibly be more obvious that the "bipartisan" or "post-partisan" approach to our problems has failed miserably and given us Donald Trump..
Funtatlaguy
(10,885 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)OMGWTF
(3,972 posts)Fullduplexxx
(7,868 posts)NBachers
(17,135 posts)OMGWTF
(3,972 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,405 posts)when Democrats bring a covered dish to a knife fight.
(last analogy is Bill Mahar's)
CloudWatcher
(1,851 posts)Is there any reason to believe that the Magnitsky investigation ... mandated by Congress ... will be any more effective than the Congressionally mandated Russian sanctions that the Trump admin just basically ignored?
red dog 1
(27,845 posts)Or, if he runs & wins a Senate seat, he'll make a great Senate Majority Leader.
He's only in his second term as a Congressman, but he's already shown that he has leadership qualities, and he's only 49.
K&R