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What the hell is clean coal ??? (Original Post) russspeakeasy Aug 2012 OP
It's as mythical as hifiguy Aug 2012 #1
It's a lie; there is no such thing. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #2
You beat me to it. Absolutely right. /nt still_one Aug 2012 #3
Diamonds Sanity Claws Aug 2012 #4
A Luntzism. mr_hat Aug 2012 #5
Its regular coal that has been "greenwashed". In other words its Erose999 Aug 2012 #6
It's the exact same thing as a Ghenweye nt MrScorpio Aug 2012 #7
It was put in the laundry? BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #8
Coal where all the pollutants (such as sulphur and nitrogen) are scrubbed from the emissions XemaSab Aug 2012 #9
The problem is what you do with the stuff quaker bill Aug 2012 #18
Same thing as compassionate conservative... meow2u3 Aug 2012 #10
A clever marketing scheme johnd83 Aug 2012 #11
We had a coal stove when I was a kid in a NYC apartment HockeyMom Aug 2012 #12
The reason I asked was because rmoney said Obama is russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #13
Black lung HockeyMom Aug 2012 #17
A lie. mmonk Aug 2012 #14
It is coal that harnesses the awesome power of the word "clean"... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #15
It is one of the latest oxymorons. GObamaGO Aug 2012 #16
It's the stuff Santa puts in bad childrens' stockings. He's Santa. He washes it first. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #19

BumRushDaShow

(129,389 posts)
8. It was put in the laundry?
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:42 PM
Aug 2012


Actually I think it's supposed to refer to a type of coal with lower percentages of certain compounds (like sulfur and phosphorous, etc.) that are naturally mixed in with the carbon.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
9. Coal where all the pollutants (such as sulphur and nitrogen) are scrubbed from the emissions
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:45 PM
Aug 2012

and the CO2 is injected into an underground formation.

It's still in the theoretical phase, like fusion.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
18. The problem is what you do with the stuff
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:14 PM
Aug 2012

after you scrub it.


Say you manage to get all the SO2 and NO3 out of the stack, then you have it in some semi-solidified form on the ground. Say you collect all the heavy metals Strontium, Radium, Mercury, perhaps in the flyash, what do you do with this toxic and somewhat radioactive stuff. You can use a little bit in asphalt, but not enough to dispose of it.

FGD (flue gas desulfurization) sludge is some interesting stuff. It smells like hell and left alone will eat its way through a steel bucket.

(been there done that)

johnd83

(593 posts)
11. A clever marketing scheme
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:47 PM
Aug 2012

In reality coal causes huge amounts of C02, toxins, and carcinogens to be released. There are cancer clusters around coal power plants all over the US, not to mention the environmental disaster of mining coal. Because coal is so inherently dirty and has a very low energy density in terms of kWh/ton of fuel there isn't much that can be done to clean it up.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
12. We had a coal stove when I was a kid in a NYC apartment
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:49 PM
Aug 2012

early 50s? I was very, very young, but remember it well. I couldn't walk around the apartment barefoot. My feet were black. I remember always washing my feet. Even walking around NYC back then, my feet in sandals, and bottoms of my shoes, were always filthy. My Mom was CONSTANTLY mopping floors, telling us to take off our shoes before we came inside.

Clean coal? I don't remember that.

russspeakeasy

(6,539 posts)
13. The reason I asked was because rmoney said Obama is
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:00 PM
Aug 2012

against "clean coal".
He said it in front of some coal miners in Ohio. I thought I noticed some smiling miners.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
17. Black lung
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 05:05 PM
Aug 2012

While I don't claim to be an expert, I am old enough to remember miners dying from "black lung" disease. Clean coal? Just given my childhood experiences with a coal stove, I would have to say no such thing.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
15. It is coal that harnesses the awesome power of the word "clean"...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:33 PM
Aug 2012

...other than that it is complete bullshit...

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