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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums**BREAKING** China hacked Trump's I Phone
Mr. Trumps aides have repeatedly warned him that his cellphone calls are not secure, and they have told him that Russian spies are routinely eavesdropping on the calls, as well. But aides say the voluble president, who has been pressured into using his secure White House landline more often these days, has still refused to give up his iPhones. White House officials say they can only hope he refrains from discussing classified information when he is on them.
Mr. Trumps use of his iPhones was detailed by several current and former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so they could discuss classified intelligence and sensitive security arrangements. The officials said they were doing so not to undermine Mr. Trump, but out of frustration with what they considered the presidents casual approach to electronic security.
American spy agencies, the officials said, had learned that China and Russia were eavesdropping on the presidents cellphone calls from human sources inside foreign governments and intercepting communications between foreign officials.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)And if anyone thinks the Chinese are the only ones monitoring Trump's personal cell phone . . . well, the phrase "hopelessly naive" springs to mind.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)Sorry, couldn't resist. Got booted out of another thread I took as tongue and cheek...
But on a serious note, why doesn't this surprise me?
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)tRumps hypocrisy knows no bounds.....
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...there was a thread that kind of praised GWB because of his friendship with Michelle Obama. Nothing wrong with finding common ground and friendship.
But some were absolving GWB's actions and a poster who I 99% disagree with, Oberliner, made the point, why is this being accepted? As he is the result of a botched war in Iraq whose repercussions are still in effect such as the Syrian Civil War, but also in Afghanistan which we botched by not paying attention to it in favor to Iraq. Thousands of lives lost due to a mismanaged presidency.
I responded with a quick reply, that just says how fucked up the current presidency is.
Now, thousands of lives have not been lost due to tRump's presidency. But it will happen. Either for a desperate attempt to hold power or as all economist know, the decisions today manifest themselves much later. So we will be in wars trying to uphold our influence...which we lost due to Dump.
OMGWTF
(3,959 posts)Squinch
(50,955 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts)Serves him right, the prick.
Thinks he's above taking advice from anybody. He was told not to use his personal IPhone for
sensitive stuff.
Let him learn the hard way.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)when classified secrets are divulged. It's not a funny ha ha FB share dt...it's Ameican Intel WE ALL paid for. Sounds like he dodged his taxes so long...he has no investment in the dollars spent to accrue accurate intel to keep America safe. It's UN ACCEPTABLE in the highest degree. He just wipes his feet on America and Americans everyday. We are shown a gaggle of hateful people who's support apparently means they feel the same way. It's not a joke. When the lights go out, there's no DU or computers or cell phones...it's too late, bc, we've been had. Pray there's no missiles coming in on the same day.
Blue Owl
(50,425 posts)n/t
meadowlander
(4,397 posts)Suspect they could have just asked nicely and thrown in a Trump Xian.
erronis
(15,303 posts)(Altho I think all religious nuts are lying to themselves and others...)
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)But he didn't listen! He brought this upon himself.
If he were smart enough to take the advice from someone else, he never would have been spied upon.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)I think he's in a position now where he feels like..."I'm a known quantity, and, if nobody does anything, it's on them(us)." He's blowing billions of dollars in the budget, giving away secrets, and inciting violence.
Not a word from Mueller.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)And maybe some others in the Middle East.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)I wonder who ISN'T listening in. A fat kid in his bedroom in New Jersey could do it....he even said so.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Fuck it, because even endangering the lives of all Americans (including his clueless cult followers), ISOKIYAR.
How are we doing with getting those nukes up in space?
underpants
(182,829 posts)Hannity isn't mentioned in the article but they do talk all the time.
UTUSN
(70,710 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)I imagine they put a bug in them on the assembly line?
anarch
(6,535 posts)I wish I were joking.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Trump and melanoma. Two walking talking willing 'bugs'.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Rump: "Lavrov, I know that's you. Now get off the line; I'm talking to Kislyak!"
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)and while they never said that the RNC was also hacked, does anybody really believe it wasn't?
Repubs in general have been kissing Trump and Putin's ass for far too long.
Vote them out!!
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)Some easy payback for Russia helping him take the election and China investing 1/2 billion in a Trump related project.
The little things count too... as they add up.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)Security breach that puts American lives and policies in danger.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)...but don't say a word about Trump blathering continuously over a non-secure phone. Not to mention the fact that he gives other world leaders his private phone number. That would be pretty easy to hack. The NSA is probably the only organization that's restraining themselves from listening to his conversations. But every other country is listening, I'm sure.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)to Trump's phone. But all they were going to get was a bunch of gossip between Trump and Hannity every night. And, I assumed somebody was going to release the recordings a week or so before the midterm elections, Wikileaks style.
TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)Russia...China...if your listening....just hack my phone....get all you need and I can act like the victim....
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)and then he was given a specially modified secure one to use, literally at the beginning of his Presidency.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,034 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)to be using it on purpose, so he can feign ignorance ('I'm new at this') while he and his family rick roll the country. This is how he's continuing to get putin information...everyday. Imagine every trump family members phone being the same sitch'.?
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Hes a five year old. He does whatever hes told not to do.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Excuse me. I mean Moran, which is Moron highest degree.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)He is clearly more concerned the american intelligence services will listen than foreign ones.
benld74
(9,904 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)They know that we can use it and they can use it. They just trust that for high level stuff we won't use it.
Remember when Obama wasn't allowed to keep his Blackberry?
Why is Trump allowed to run around with an iPhone that is trivially hacked?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/19/ss7-hack-explained-mobile-phone-vulnerability-snooping-texts-calls
https://www.ptsecurity.com/ww-en/analytics/ss7-vulnerability-2018/
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Everyone knew this would happen.
But Trump is such a nihilist. He doesn't care how dangerous it is.
spike jones
(1,680 posts)"Double Whopper with cheese, large fries and a large chocolate shake.
BadGimp
(4,015 posts).. now image the outrage among the GOP...
enid602
(8,620 posts)The phone probably just has photos of Tinys dick on it. If its equipped with zoom, of course.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Give it to me.
No.
I said, give it to me.
No.
OK, then.