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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt is clear to me. FBI will get the people who sent the bombs. & Mueller will get Trump & his gang.
...Both will take time. Both are determined. You might say that these events are not the same.
But both events are crimes, but crimes of a different kind. The former head of the FBI that is investigating a group that colluded with a foreign nation to influence and possibly change a federal election is just as motivated to catch those crooks as the FBI is to someone or some group that sent bombs to our former leaders. You may say NO, but I would say yes.
... Mueller has already gotten a number of Trump's gang, and is working with them to indict other members of the gang. In each case the investigators will find solid proof that will convict the criminals. You might say that there is no comparison. OK. You have your opinion. I say in both cases they will catch the crooks. Both cases might take time. But, in my opinion in both cases the investigators will get the top dogs.
marble falls
(57,102 posts)Stuart G
(38,434 posts)Cha
(297,304 posts)I'm interested. I want the would be bomber to be caught so badly.. for Justice and to shove it in the "false flag" spewers' collective face.
marble falls
(57,102 posts)finger prints. He had to buy everything they use: most people don't keep five or six identical digital clocks, those timers can be traced and maybe someone remembers someone or ATF can run records for people who might buy a lot of these who wouldn't seem to be a typical buyer. there's all sorts of surfaces that will collect a randon finger print, ot DNA - say a piece of dandruff or a hair or or a spot of sweat or blood. Tools leave identifiable marks that can tie another bomb or bomber to this, if the explosive is C4 or dynamite, there are markers purposely mixed into comercial and I believe military explosives that ID makers, lots, dates.
The bomber was very sloppy regarding the tags, the packing, the stamps: there could well be saliva on the envelope seal, a hair, some skin cells - all sorts of stuff.
The odd thing about these bombs is that there in no switch or terminals on the timers that would be used to detonate the bombs, usually bombs sent by mail or left as a package detonate by openning and releasing a switch or by a remote signal. And I saw no evidence of blasting caps or external batteries. If this is so it implies a bunch of possible things:
1. The bomber may be a bit delusional.
2. Maybe not intending an explosion.
2. May be incompetent.
He left five bombs including some not destroyed, he leaft a huge pile of evidence with police agencies that are very very good at solving bomb cases. I think we have a good chance of knowing who did it before the election. Just watched Rachel - she repeat some of this and the count is now eight bombs. The more they drop off, the better the chances there are to catch these mooks, every single one of them. No doubt in my mind. They're going to prison for a looong time.
Thank goodness they were apparently too stupid to make a working bomb.
As to the second party - cheetolini, Mueller's got the goods on him. No doubt in my mind.
I am not arguing with RWers over this, the FBI, ATF will get to the bottom of this fast enough.
Cha
(297,304 posts)one person.. or he had help? Too soon to tell?
I just saw the Return address from one was DWS.. to obviously blame it on her. And, the one in Soros' mailbox was hand delivered, yesterday.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
This evidence is so encouraging.. Mahalo!
marble falls
(57,102 posts)Cha
(297,304 posts)this.
marble falls
(57,102 posts)reciepts, plane tickets, notel rooms, rental cars, people involved with legal cases ready to be turned into informers. This will not go well with them.
Cha
(297,304 posts)marble falls
(57,102 posts)triron
(22,006 posts)Cha
(297,304 posts)marble falls
(57,102 posts)Cha
(297,304 posts)Cesar Sayoc left so many breadcrumbs. Much more than we knew at that moment in time.
Good on Law enforcement and the FBI!
bdamomma
(63,870 posts)all have MAGA hats, assholes. Sorry I am
Stuart G
(38,434 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...while Trumps jury will be made up of his political allies.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)True Dough
(17,305 posts)and I generally share it, although it wanes some days.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)I think that you are right, and I just can't wait for both to materialize.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)Cha
(297,304 posts)in those "false flag" spewers' collective face.. and get Justice!
AZ8theist
(5,475 posts)That the FBI will find the source of the explosive packages. What if this is just another avenue of the Russians to disrupt our society?
Remember the cluster fuck surrounding the Anthrax terror attack years ago? No one was ever brought to justice. Only accusations.
Putins goal is the destruction of western society. How convenient for him to foment a civil war in America barely lifting a finger.
democrank
(11,096 posts)Trump's chaotic recklessness is way beyond disturbing. I'm trying to hold on to the belief that justice will be served.
Stuart G
(38,434 posts)getting the top dog of the Trump gang, that he is going to pursue this as long as is necessary. Mueller has gone after the top dog of gangs before this. He is not new at moving from the bottom of to the top of a gang. So, it may not happen in our time frame, but he will get the top dogs of the Trump campaign. Trump's chaotic recklessness if part of what will get him convicted.
..He thinks he can do almost anything and get away with it. It will take time, but Mueller will prove him wrong. His lawyer has already been charged. Some reports say Cohen is cooperating with Mueller.. We must wait and see, but I do believe that Mueller will get Trump.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)They are often well protected and keep an arm's length away from deeds.
I don't believe any of the Trump team that has been indicted was indicted or pled guilty for conspiracy w/Russia to interfere with the election? Flynn comes closest, but it has to do with his promises to Russian Ambassador to kill the sanctions, and other things pertaining to his foreign agent status with Turkey, lying to the FBI, and things like that.
I think they may get the bomber(s), though.
triron
(22,006 posts)so far or maybe those indictments are still sealed.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's a good sign he's not through. But then, he may be waiting until after the mid-term elections.
Stuart G
(38,434 posts)This way he is not accused of trying to affect the election. Staying totally neutral till after the elections. Comey was accused of interfering with an election, and Mueller would like to avoid that. This way, because he is waiting till later, he is not accused of interfering. The whole reason he is doing this investigation is simple.."To catch and convict the crooks
...Getting involved by indicting before an election, puts him in a position that may be difficult to defend. Oh, he really is a Democrat trying to sway the election in his favor....That is the last thing he wants. So he waits to indict for two or three weeks, and avoids all that. The crooks are not going away. Trump's son will be around after the election, and Mueller is incredibly smart. He can wait and we can wait too.
...But on the Friday after the election or Monday or whatever. We will find out. And Trump Jr. and his gang will be brought to justice and indicted. Yes, we can wait 2 or 3 weeks to see them go down, and yes, Trump's gang will go down. WHY???? .. 3 very simple reasons:
1. Trump's gang broke the law..
2. Mueller is smarter than Trump and his gang
3. Mueller has dealt with arrogant crooks who think they can get away with anything before, many times..
(as an example, Mueller has indicted Trump's former lawyer and friend..is that correct? Some say, that Mr. Cohen is cooperating... but, honestly... "I don't know nothing".. Sgt Schultz)
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