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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts) Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:07 AM Oct 2018

What I want to know is who is providing a lawyer for Sayoc. He appeared just

in time to prevent him from giving information to federal investigators. I know having one is standard procedure but is he a public defender or is he being sponsored. Will the early tone of Sayoc change dramatically to avoid connecting himself to the right, even though evidence proves he is? I am just wondering. A man who lives of his van immediately gets a lawyer before declaring to the courts that he can not afford one.

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What I want to know is who is providing a lawyer for Sayoc. He appeared just (Original Post) mfcorey1 Oct 2018 OP

Rush Limbaugh lives in Florida. TexasTowelie Oct 2018 #1

I doubt that. Scarsdale Oct 2018 #12

I think the feds want to make sure no problems arise and therefore made sure-- riversedge Oct 2018 #2

exactly - eliminate as many defense arguments as possible - like the blue tarp DrDan Oct 2018 #3

Exactly. They are going to be very careful with this one. Cross all T's dot all I's. Arkansas Granny Oct 2018 #8

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I Hear Sayoc Is Going To Open A "Trump Car Wrapping" Company When.... global1 Oct 2018 #5

Sarah Baumgartel is his lawyer as of now Cattledog Oct 2018 #6

This is correct blogslut Oct 2018 #9

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say PCIntern Oct 2018 #10

It wouldn't surprise me if Alan Dershowitz steps up and represents him pro bono. George II Oct 2018 #21

The public safety exception. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2018 #15

Big common trait of these bastards... WinstonSmith4740 Oct 2018 #19

He's very familiar with being in the criminal justice system. HopeAgain Oct 2018 #7

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George Soros 90-percent Oct 2018 #14

Public Defender. Take off the tin foil hat. onenote Oct 2018 #16

One good thing watoos Oct 2018 #17

trump foundation-but they'll stiff any lawyer magabomber gets Marthe48 Oct 2018 #18

He's had an attorney on and off since the early 1990s, when he first started getting arrested. George II Oct 2018 #20

Probably asked for a public defender in jail, not unusual Jersey Devil Oct 2018 #22

Ironic, the MAGAbomber can take his attorney's advice and shut the hell up. Hugin Oct 2018 #23

Federal public defender. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #24

TexasTowelie

(112,237 posts)

1. Rush Limbaugh lives in Florida.

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:12 AM

Oct 2018

Perhaps he is paying for an attorney?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)

12. I doubt that.

Reply to TexasTowelie (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 08:19 AM

Oct 2018

Rush only pays for wives and young brown boys.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)

2. I think the feds want to make sure no problems arise and therefore made sure--

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:16 AM

Oct 2018

if they had to find a public defender for him--he had a lawyer.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)

3. exactly - eliminate as many defense arguments as possible - like the blue tarp

Reply to riversedge (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:17 AM

Oct 2018

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)

8. Exactly. They are going to be very careful with this one. Cross all T's dot all I's.

Reply to riversedge (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:26 AM

Oct 2018

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global1

(25,252 posts)

5. I Hear Sayoc Is Going To Open A "Trump Car Wrapping" Company When....

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:18 AM

Oct 2018

Trump pays his lawyers fees and ultimately pardons him. (sarcasm)

Cattledog

(5,915 posts)

6. Sarah Baumgartel is his lawyer as of now

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:22 AM

Oct 2018

She is from the Federal Defenders office in Manhattan, and is assigned to represent him.

blogslut

(38,002 posts)

9. This is correct

Reply to Cattledog (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:49 AM

Oct 2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/26/suspected-explosive-devices-addressed-cory-booker-james-clapper-probe-expands-packages

...Agents tried to question him immediately, according to one law enforcement official, under what’s called the “public safety exception,” which says police can interview a subject without first reading them their rights if authorities are seeking information about ongoing security threats. Sayoc did not want to talk and quickly demanded a lawyer, the official said...

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...Sayoc’s lawyer Sarah Jane Baumgartel declined to comment on the case...

PCIntern

(25,556 posts)

10. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say

Reply to blogslut (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 08:04 AM

Oct 2018

That this Nazified Motherfucker will be most ably represented by a lawyer of the “Jewish persuasion” as these creeps like to refer to us.

Fuck him and his Lord and Master.

George II

(67,782 posts)

21. It wouldn't surprise me if Alan Dershowitz steps up and represents him pro bono.

Reply to PCIntern (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:03 AM

Oct 2018

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)

15. The public safety exception.

Reply to blogslut (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:18 AM

Oct 2018

I hadn't known there was one. It makes sense.

...Sayoc’s lawyer Sarah Jane Baumgartel declined to comment on the case...

Good.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)

19. Big common trait of these bastards...

Reply to blogslut (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:00 AM

Oct 2018

Sayoc did not want to talk and quickly demanded a lawyer,

They immediately demand the protections of a system they're trying to destroy for everyone else.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)

7. He's very familiar with being in the criminal justice system.

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 07:23 AM

Oct 2018

Nothing surprising here. Don't go straight for the foil hat.

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90-percent

(6,829 posts)

14. George Soros

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 08:49 AM

Oct 2018

Well, duh.................

-90% Jimmy

onenote

(42,714 posts)

16. Public Defender. Take off the tin foil hat.

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Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:24 AM

Oct 2018

watoos

(7,142 posts)

17. One good thing

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:34 AM

Oct 2018

Trump did promise to pay the legal fees if he wants a better lawyer.

Marthe48

(16,974 posts)

18. trump foundation-but they'll stiff any lawyer magabomber gets

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:59 AM

Oct 2018

<jk>

George II

(67,782 posts)

20. He's had an attorney on and off since the early 1990s, when he first started getting arrested.

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:01 AM

Oct 2018

He's been in and out of court for twenty years.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)

22. Probably asked for a public defender in jail, not unusual

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:09 AM

Oct 2018

You don't have to wait for a court appearance to apply for a public defender. It's part of the Miranda warnings: You have the right to have a lawyer represent you and if you cannot afford a lawyer one will be appointed for you.

Nothing unusual here.

Hugin

(33,162 posts)

23. Ironic, the MAGAbomber can take his attorney's advice and shut the hell up.

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:12 AM

Oct 2018

and Trumpster... Not so much.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)

24. Federal public defender.

Reply to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:24 AM

Oct 2018

And he could be questioned without a lawyer under the public safety exception to the Miranda rule.

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