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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:24 PM Aug 2012

In addition to banking services, the Post Office should expand into providing internet service.

Recently it was proposed that Postal Service extend into banking. Low fee checking/savings accounts.

I believe they could also provide state of the art low fee internet service. A check and balance to the high fee monopoly system just down the road.

Cable cannot not afford to or don't want to service rural areas. This would be a good place to start.

This is not a really new area for Postal Systems. Many Postal Systems in other countries were also the phone and telegraph companies that moved into TV after WWII and the late 80's into the internet.

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In addition to banking services, the Post Office should expand into providing internet service. (Original Post) CK_John Aug 2012 OP
Great idea !! russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #1
I love that idea. Want to have another ISP anyway. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #2
Municipality based wireless via fiber. It could save thier sorry asses. bluerum Aug 2012 #3
Pass the word to your congress criter. nt CK_John Aug 2012 #4
I've wanted them to have copying machines, etc. but the internet thing would be great. freshwest Aug 2012 #5
It would be very convenient if they would PADemD Aug 2012 #6
They couldn't do photo ID's except possibly passports. Angleae Aug 2012 #8
They can do it as a "MOU" (Memorandum of Understanding) BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #11
They certainly could except that "our" government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #7
Many in rural areas use Dish or Direct PayAttentionFool Aug 2012 #9
It doesn't need to be wire, firer optic or sat. Whatever is future technology CK_John Aug 2012 #10
Laying copper or fiber is expensive plus you need permits and what not PayAttentionFool Aug 2012 #12
To me, money is just a concept. The most important steps to any endeavor is project commitment and CK_John Aug 2012 #16
money is just a concept? :-) crazyjoe Aug 2012 #23
Even better, it would create lots of jobs running fiber, or installing WAPs, or whatever. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #24
REA already does internet in some places FarCenter Aug 2012 #18
Today FedEx announced a buyout plan, usually the long road to takeover or liquidation. CK_John Aug 2012 #19
Slowdown in the overnight air business and too much overhead FarCenter Aug 2012 #21
Yes, but the public library has that as a service for free usually flamingdem Aug 2012 #13
What funding is going to provide the money for that infrastructure? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #14
You want a system that loses billions a quarter to expand?! Zax2me Aug 2012 #15
Why are they losing money now, do you suppose? Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #17
The assault on the postal service is a well-planned and meticulously executed RW operation. entanglement Aug 2012 #20
K&R n/t DeSwiss Aug 2012 #22
great idea! limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #25

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. I've wanted them to have copying machines, etc. but the internet thing would be great.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 09:09 PM
Aug 2012

Maybe we can convince some repugs they can snoop on us. Then they'd fund it, huh.

But no kidding, that is a great idea. I used to work with a woman with a Masters in Math and CS, who was hired to work with the postal services years as a programmer.

I'm still thinking too many people take the post office for granted, that it will just be there without any effort on our parts. The GOP is determined to destroy what Sanders called the last socialist service.

This is why privatization is called economic apartheid. Those who will be able to afford to use the more expensive, unregulated private services will use them. The rest will be left in the dust.

There is a reason for using the word 'universal' in government work, it's about equality. There are so many diverse sitautions for the people of this country, we need the commons so that we can keep on meeting there and exchange goods with each other.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
6. It would be very convenient if they would
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 09:28 PM
Aug 2012

Also do photo ID's so we wouldn't have to drive to the local DMV. The post office has better hours and there's one or more in almost every town. Why can't the federal government issue photo ID's that would be recognized in every state.

BumRushDaShow

(129,370 posts)
11. They can do it as a "MOU" (Memorandum of Understanding)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:16 PM
Aug 2012

It's done all the time between the states and feds.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
7. They certainly could except that "our" government is a wholly owned subsidiary of the
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 09:38 PM
Aug 2012

U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Several municipalities have tried to provide free wireless connectivity over large areas (typically the downtown business district) and they are promptly sued and restrained by the monopolists with the help of the USAG's office.

The real welfare queens have the game locked up.

 

PayAttentionFool

(57 posts)
9. Many in rural areas use Dish or Direct
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 09:52 PM
Aug 2012

which is cheaper then cable.

Besides why spend the money on building the infrastructure to support rural cable?

Even 3rd world countries stopped building hard line infrastructure because of the cost.

Wireless is easier and cheaper to install.

What really chaps my ass is that for the brief time the Dems had control they could have repealed the USPS prefunded pension plan requirement that is bankrupting the USPS yet they did not, nor did they even attempt to get rid of the prefunded pension.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
10. It doesn't need to be wire, firer optic or sat. Whatever is future technology
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:07 PM
Aug 2012

that will be around a while like the REA and TVA. Personally I think wireless is too limited and is too invasive and may not be healthy.

 

PayAttentionFool

(57 posts)
12. Laying copper or fiber is expensive plus you need permits and what not
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:21 PM
Aug 2012

and techs capable of repairing fiber and a whole bunch of other people even before you sign up 1 customer.

Parts of this country have houses 6 miles apart, think about the cost just to hook up 50 homes that are 6 miles apart.






CK_John

(10,005 posts)
16. To me, money is just a concept. The most important steps to any endeavor is project commitment and
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:45 PM
Aug 2012

approval. If you worry about product widgets nothing ever gets done.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
24. Even better, it would create lots of jobs running fiber, or installing WAPs, or whatever.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:37 AM
Aug 2012

Lots of jobs for tech support, network engineers, guys who can climb poles, data center, etc. A real boost for the economy.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
18. REA already does internet in some places
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:51 PM
Aug 2012

They have the advantage of knowing how to set poles, string or plow cable, and connect equipment.

USPS is clueless about communications. In the '90s they tried to fancy themselves as in the communications business, took their eye off their basic business of transporting small objects, and FedEx and UPS ate their lunch.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
21. Slowdown in the overnight air business and too much overhead
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:19 PM
Aug 2012

Truck delivery is ok.

Some of their fat in positions that do not handle parcels is due to having taken over other companies.

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
13. Yes, but the public library has that as a service for free usually
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:24 PM
Aug 2012

Then again libraries are getting cut back so the PO could take up the slack.

I'm so sad about losing our historic Post Office. It's a drop in the bucket
but the heart of our town.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
15. You want a system that loses billions a quarter to expand?!
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:30 PM
Aug 2012

With low fee Internet services?!
And low fee banking services?
Sounds about right.
They would lose billions per quarter in those as well.

entanglement

(3,615 posts)
20. The assault on the postal service is a well-planned and meticulously executed RW operation.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:09 PM
Aug 2012

Their eventual goal is its destruction / cannibalization and privatization/sell-off to greedy corporates, which will result in the end of universal service obligations and low prices. Profit, not a public service is their motto.

Their methods have been brutally efficient: pass absurd laws crippling USPS, underfund it, hobble it, enable its competition. When losses occur (why wouldn't they when USPS is required to pre-pay healthcare benefits till 2075 by mid-decade), blame its (public) "lazy", "overpaid" workers and their "entitlements" and call for further measures to weaken USPS. It is death by a thousand cuts and it makes me sick.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
25. great idea!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:53 AM
Aug 2012

The USPS would be a perfect way to deliver the next generation of internet bandwidth to homes and businesses.

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