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CabCurious

(954 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 09:55 PM Aug 2012

Factual talking points on the economy (UPDATED)

Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:17 AM - Edit history (1)

Remind those who are nervous about debt that Bush started with a $128 billion SURPLUS & ended with a $1.4 trillion DEFICIT. Obama was handed that kind of spending right during the worst GLOBAL economic collapse in 100 years.

* $600 billion in deficit reduction since Bush's last budget.
* Lowest spending increases since Eisenhower.
* 30 months of private sector job growth, including small businesses.
* Record corporate profits & Wall Street values.
* More millionaires and billionaires every year.
* Lowest real tax rates on the rich since 1928.
* 21 new tax cuts for middle-class families.
* 18 new tax cuts for small businesses.
* First growth in manufacturing sectors in 30 years.
* Americans #1 in worker productivity.
* Household debt reduced by half-a-trillion.
* Gas prices peaked at $4.12 under Bush.

And:
* Obama has proposed $4 trillion in additional debt reduction, but the GOP have blocked him.
* Republicans partisanship in Congress is the primary reason for the downgrade of USA's credit rating.
* Romney has said military spending is off-limits for cutting ($683.7 billion in 2010)

But there's a 8% unemployment rate still, right? That's in large part due to the 700,000 government jobs that have been cut, including States cutting 230,000 teachers and 130,000 police/emergency responders.

The overall argument we need to make: The GOP are peddling the wrong kind of (failed) capitalism.

It's time to divest from Wall Street and the finance markets. It's time America return to Main Street and manufacturing.

PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYMENT SINCE 2008



BUSH DEFICIT VS OBAMA DEFICIT


SLOWEST SPENDING SINCE EISENHOWER


SOURCES:
http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-26/small-business-job-creation-is-stronger-than-we-think
http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2011/08/86-of-top-100-markets-add.html
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CP
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/09/02/public-sector-losses-continue-to-drive-poor-jobs-numbers
http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/14/news/economy/recovery_act_jobs/index.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-admin.4.18853088.html
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2011-11-06/federal-borrowing-rises-sharply/51097800/1
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/jobs/posts/2012/08/03-jobs-greenstone-looney
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/02/06/ray-of-light-u-s-corporate-worker-productivity-continues-to-r/
http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-news/2011/11/06/federal-borrowing-up-household-debt-shrinks/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-admin.4.18853088.html
http://www.peri.umass.edu/236/hash/b3c8228599526db24002f4a6d38369c1/publication/490/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/dec/14/executive-pay-increase-america-ceos
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/12/10/number-of-the-week-finances-share-of-economy-continues-to-grow/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/22/super-rich-offshore-havens_n_1692608.html
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-spending-inferno-or-not/
http://www.governing.com/blogs/by-the-numbers/public-private-sector-cuts-during-recession-by-state.html

Most updated thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/125170175

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Factual talking points on the economy (UPDATED) (Original Post) CabCurious Aug 2012 OP
K&R drm604 Aug 2012 #1
Obama has had a steady hand on the rudder bhikkhu Aug 2012 #2
Yes. And we should challenge moderates to "love america" CabCurious Aug 2012 #3
NYC_SKP's addition re: Unemployment rates CabCurious Aug 2012 #4

bhikkhu

(10,722 posts)
2. Obama has had a steady hand on the rudder
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 10:12 PM
Aug 2012

...while the republicans have become, essentially, radical social engineers. As any radical extremist must do, they exaggerate the problems of the moment far beyond the possibility of repair, to justify their radical "solutions"; a moment of sober analysis finds that their radical solutions would do far more harm than good, but they count on the fear and loathing they stoke up to prevent any sober moments.

CabCurious

(954 posts)
3. Yes. And we should challenge moderates to "love america"
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:45 AM
Aug 2012

Our national politics are about emotions.

Even talking about the facts, we need to recognize that it's not enough to just be factual. People have come to HATE this President after so many years of attacks and mob chanting. You can't change those emotions very easily.

Most of these people didn't care about the precise truth of the birther debate. It's the underlying premise that the President isn't "like us" or "a real american" that mattered.

However, we can make ploys to their patriotism and their economic self-interests. The Dems need to make it clear that the GOP's negative campaign is bashing the economy and thus undermining it.

CabCurious

(954 posts)
4. NYC_SKP's addition re: Unemployment rates
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:43 AM
Aug 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=70197

Rates 101:

The official rate is the U3 unemployment rate. It's just over 8%.

The higher rate freepers cite is the U6 unemployment rate. It's hovering around 15%

The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers and those working part-time for economic reasons." Note that some of these part-time workers counted as employed by U-3 could be working as little as an hour a week. And the "marginally attached workers" include those who have gotten discouraged and stopped looking, but still want to work. The age considered for this calculation is 16 years and over

Visit this site for more information:

http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate.jsp




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