as president, 84 after the first 4 years, 88 after the second 4. If he runs for president in 2019-2020, he won't do it expecting to win and, presuming he was still standing after losing, would have his senate seat to fall back on.

If enough of the people of Vermont want him to remain in the senate until he walks away or is carried out, that'll be their choice.

I think after this midterm election Bernie switches to being a Democrats on paper.

Bernie pulls about 30% of the primary votes. Someone like Biden can pull about 20%. The rest of the crowded field of 5-10 candidates will split up the remaining 50%, a couple of them like Harris and Warren able to draw 10%.

Bernie could be leading by the convention. The other candidates holding delegates could also combine all of theirs behind one candidate and still defeat Bernie though, severely fracturing the party and causing a huge fight the media will hype and profit from.

Plus there are the states that let any voter vote in any primary, that will help Bernie also.

Always remember, the media wants drama, controversy, attacks, and whatever else will get them ratings and profits. They will hype Sanders if necessary to prop him up in the beginning.

He made it clear he doesn't want to be a member of our party.

He is going to serve his last term as a senator and fade away.

Plus there are states that passed laws requiring presidential candidates disclose their tax returns. He isn't going to run.

unlike the relentless badgering of others as qualified or more than Sanders.

He has some serious baggage that has been completely omitted from conversation so your theory may be correct.


"the media wants drama, controversy, attacks, and whatever else will get them ratings and profits. They will hype Sanders if necessary to prop him up in the beginning."

It has been a rather odd thing to witness.
He will never win the Dem Primary, however, even if he becomes a Dem
I believe he has so divided the liberal side of politics & Dems will never accept him back.

The truth is, he is a very divisive character, by his own doing.
He is toxic as to unifying a Dem base & a great big section of the liberal demographic just flat out despises him, and for reasons that are obvious.

I personally don't care what he does since I don't believe he has any intention to run a second campaign as he approaches 80.
He seems to be simply enjoying the position life has given him. To have his voice heard & recognized, and to be noted in the history books of US politics.
That is where he's at. In my opinion, however.

Vermont has nothing to worry about even if he did run. It's possible he can't even be on the ballot in some states because of his refusal to show his taxes.

The cognitive dissonance it takes to support this guy just blows my mind.

He knows quite well his role then & now.

You said it well.

As far as I can tell he is the number one cause of Democratic infighting. It would be nice if he stepped back and put his efforts into just supporting Democrats.

I think he's rather enjoying the show.
Pitiful when so much is now on the line & down to the wire.

participation was more divisive against Democrats. Surely there has been something about Republicans running the country that would have motivated him before now. Why wait until seeing the Democrat he would run against, hmm.

"He sat out 11 other presidential races since he turned 35 and his only
participation was more divisive against Democrats. "

Who enlisted him & prepared the path of his run?
No candidate just steps on the grand presidential stage by his own decision, & alone, one day. It is organized long before announced.
Who all engaged & enlisted him?


How can anyone look at this & not be a bit suspicious.
His call out of Trump was dismally absent, & vice versa. Why is that?
When one studies the path each took during & following 2016.
At some point, it is completely fair for a reasonable citizen to ask.
Questions deserve an honest answer, as we watch the demise of our current condition in our country.
We are right to examine every direction from where the arrows came from, as they contributed to this current dangerous state of affairs.

Those who ask deserve an answer.

but he will not be allowed to hump the Democratic party again for his own selfish gain. He's hurt us enough already.

....and later on from the DNC when he was a democrat.

I've told this story before - even though they claimed that there was no data saved back then, the very next day after the breach of the DNC database, in December 2015, I mysteriously began getting emails from his campaign almost every day. And as the campaign progressed it increased two, three, even four per day.

I never gave his campaign my email address.

Just another lie from him. I know a lot of people who were into Bernie (or simply didn't like Hillary) that think he's an asshole now. He'll never get to use our party again.

We can't normalize withholding tax returns.