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Breaking from Rachel Maddow: (Original Post) Qutzupalotl Oct 2018 OP
Way to go Indian Nation!!! Grandma always told me.... one of my ancestors was Indian!! trueblue2007 Oct 2018 #1
My grandma told me the same thing, and I believed it until I did one of those Luciferous Oct 2018 #15
Same here. TomSlick Oct 2018 #19
She still could have been some cannabis_flower Oct 2018 #21
Thanks. TomSlick Oct 2018 #22
I would believe my Grandmother before I'd believe a DNA test. mahina Nov 2018 #27
Precisely Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #30
This may be too late for the court to grant relief Gothmog Oct 2018 #2
I feel your right BUT bluestarone Oct 2018 #3
at the very least, publicity Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #25
Great news. kacekwl Oct 2018 #4
K&R PatSeg Oct 2018 #5
Hey this is how it gets done! FakeNoose Oct 2018 #6
That would depend on the kind of judge GWC58 Nov 2018 #26
Fantastic! skip fox Oct 2018 #7
Awesome news. Maybe gop sec states will stop trying lindysalsagal Oct 2018 #8
This is the best news! nt Lil Stinker Oct 2018 #9
Great! It's a frickin' shame they had to spend the money to file this. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #10
Absolutely disgraceful that is happening in a country that claims Enoki33 Oct 2018 #11
Well and rightly said. Crutchez_CuiBono Oct 2018 #13
Absolutely. MariaCSR Nov 2018 #28
I'll just leave this here: Qutzupalotl Oct 2018 #12
Very good - well done. nt Maru Kitteh Oct 2018 #14
I donated to her campaign. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #33
Thank you! Qutzupalotl Nov 2018 #34
Does anyone know WHAT the says ? Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #16
This Native Hawaiian applauds this! yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #17
I think drastic methods need to be employed in Dodge City Kansas, too. Ilsa Oct 2018 #18
I wish them well, but TomSlick Oct 2018 #20
My understanding iwith the North Dakota law you have to have a street address. gordianot Nov 2018 #23
Yes! Fight for your rights to vote! UCmeNdc Nov 2018 #24
Bravo! smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #29
It pays to believe what your grandparents tell you. usaf-vet Nov 2018 #31
Super! hostalover Nov 2018 #32
Noticed a couple of plaintiffs have the name Peltier, and just wanted to say: malchickiwick Nov 2018 #35
Fed. Dist. Court Rejects New Relief in North Dakota Residential Address for voting case Gothmog Nov 2018 #36
Well, crap. At least they are issuing street addresses Qutzupalotl Nov 2018 #37
And hopeless to appeal to the Fascist Five SCOTUS stuffmatters Nov 2018 #38

trueblue2007

(17,237 posts)
1. Way to go Indian Nation!!! Grandma always told me.... one of my ancestors was Indian!!
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:15 PM
Oct 2018

Far back. I was told by lots of relatives, some people were Indians. I am proud of whatever heritage I am.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Native Americans. I hope you win the lawsuit.

TomSlick

(11,108 posts)
19. Same here.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:41 PM
Oct 2018

From photos of my great grandmother, she was obviously at least partially Native American - except she wasn't. I have 0% Native American DNA.

cannabis_flower

(3,765 posts)
21. She still could have been some
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 10:58 PM
Oct 2018

You get half your genes from each parent but that doesn't guarantee that you will get any of the Native American DNA. I've seen videos of two sisters where they didn't get quite the same percentages of the same things but they were still deemed to be sisters. For example, if your dad is half-Italian and half-French and your mom is German, you could have half-German and half-French DNA and your sister could have half-German and 1/4 Italian and 1/4 French, or any other combination of the two.

TomSlick

(11,108 posts)
22. Thanks.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 11:06 PM
Oct 2018

I probably should have known this but I didn't go to law school because I was good at science.

mahina

(17,693 posts)
27. I would believe my Grandmother before I'd believe a DNA test.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:58 AM
Nov 2018

Also I’d rather not pay to give my DNA info to some company. I don’t trust them because I don’t have any way to determine the veracity of their results other than try multiple testing companies. Even then I wouldn’t know how to discern which one was correct.

Grandma on the other hand never lied to me or anyone else.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,413 posts)
25. at the very least, publicity
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:14 AM
Nov 2018

Hopefully, the court can provide timely relief, but if it can't, at least more people will know about the attempt to disenfranchise voters.

FakeNoose

(32,739 posts)
6. Hey this is how it gets done!
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:29 PM
Oct 2018

The judges will make the right decision, it's a matter of implementing this immediately for next Tuesday.
Awesome move Spirit Lake Tribe!

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
26. That would depend on the kind of judge
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:37 AM
Nov 2018

the tribe gets. Being this is North Dakota my confidence level isn’t so very high. 😳

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. Great! It's a frickin' shame they had to spend the money to file this.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:50 PM
Oct 2018

It is so WRONG to have to hire an attorney and spend no tellin' how much money to file this restraining order request in order to exercise their right to vote! It is so obvious why this restriction on address was passed!

I just hope the court blocks the restriction for Native AMERICANS!

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
11. Absolutely disgraceful that is happening in a country that claims
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:07 PM
Oct 2018

the moral authority to spread democracy worldwide. This is so much more than a mere contradiction. Republicans have much to answer for.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
13. Well and rightly said.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:14 PM
Oct 2018

We ARE the country that promoted the whole one man one vote thing. AND killed people overseas to force this system on them bc "they just didnt know any better". It's such a GD farce these days in so many ways. It needs to stop, like last week already.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
33. I donated to her campaign.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 01:31 PM
Nov 2018

And, I noted WHY I did so. Her Kavanaugh vote, her stance on voting equality too. Go Heidi!

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
16. Does anyone know WHAT the says ?
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:43 PM
Oct 2018

And what is the title (or number) of the law ?

How in the Sam Hill can this even be legal ?

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
18. I think drastic methods need to be employed in Dodge City Kansas, too.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:57 PM
Oct 2018

I know an aclu lawsuit has been initiated. But I hope suing specific people for intentionally trying to disenfranchise a block of voters would scare them into doing the right thing.

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
23. My understanding iwith the North Dakota law you have to have a street address.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 03:01 AM
Nov 2018

Wouldn’t this disenfranchise anyone who had a rural address? Obviously it is targeting Native Americans but I would think the suppression would hit all rural voters. Who else is being denied a vote?

usaf-vet

(6,207 posts)
31. It pays to believe what your grandparents tell you.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:44 AM
Nov 2018

My wife's maternal grandmother told her, when she was a child, that she was a descendent of an original Mayflower passenger.

My wife spent nearly 35 years putting together the pieces. One small piece at a time. One research library at a time. One cemetery at a time. One birth certificate. One marriage certificate. One death certificate at a time. But she believed her grandmother and was determined to find the truth.

In August 2017 at the age of 70 my wife's years of research paid off. She is now an official descendent of William White an original Mayflower passenger. And has the research to prove it.

Grandmother was right. No DNA test was necessary. Public records and 35 years of research proved the lineage.

Gothmog

(145,530 posts)
36. Fed. Dist. Court Rejects New Relief in North Dakota Residential Address for voting case
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:01 PM
Nov 2018

I was expecting this ruling https://electionlawblog.org/?p=101873

The federal courts are unanimous in their judgment that it is highly important to preserve the status quo when elections are fast approaching. See Purcell v. Gonzalez, 549 U.S. 1, 4-5 (2006); Williams v. Rhodes, 393 U.S. 23, 34-35 (1968); Veasey v. Perry, 769 F.3d 890, 892-95 (5th Cir. 2014). “Court orders affecting elections, especially conflicting orders, can themselves result in voter confusion and consequent incentive to remain away from the polls. As an election draws closer, that risk will increase.” Purcell, 549 U.S. at 4–5. In this case, early voting has already begun. Election day is less than one week away. The allegations in the complaint, the motion for a temporary restraining order, and the attached affidavits give this Court great cause for concern.

The allegations will require a detailed response from the Secretary of State as this case proceeds. The litany of problems identified in this new lawsuit were clearly predictable and certain to occur as the Court noted in its previous orders in Brakebill v. Jaeger.

However, a further injunction on the eve of the election will create as much confusion as it will alleviate, and is foreclosed by precedent which is hesitant to permit “eleventh-hour changes to election laws.” See Veasey, 769 F.3d at 895. The Court has carefully reviewed the entire record and finds the issuance of an emergency temporary restraining order unwarranted given the importance of avoiding further confusion and chaos on the eve of an election.

Qutzupalotl

(14,322 posts)
37. Well, crap. At least they are issuing street addresses
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:56 PM
Nov 2018

for tribal members without one. I hope that will be enough and they can handle all the voters who are outraged at this suppression scheme.

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