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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSoldier who served in Afghanistan responds to firing on people who throw rocks:
Link to tweet
Joe Kassabian
?@jkass99
We had rocks thrown at us all the time in Afghanistan. Responding with lethal force is a fucking war crime.
lark
(23,155 posts)Now he's war criminal, traitor, fraud, liar, grifter, profiteer, racist hater & biggest threat to our way of life ever.
niyad
(113,552 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)He never served anything but himself.
Dump also said that on purpose to give his cult members who are in the service cover to do it.
keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)Hey! Hey! Cadet Bone Spurs knows more than the generals.
Just ask him.
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George II
(67,782 posts)commands.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)No doubt this is where Mushroom Dick got the idea.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Or his son in law, and just for giggles his pal the Saudi Prince. Of course Putin is probably getting hard about now too.
Typical Strong Man tactics.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Netanyahu is as big of a threat to Israel as Trump is to the US, a war criminal.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)and that's about as clearly unlawful as it gets.
Aristus
(66,462 posts)we had an entire afternoon of classes about what constitutes lawful and unlawful orders. And we trainees were told, in no uncertain terms, that if we were given an unlawful order, we were legally, ethically, and morally-bound to disobey that order.
Ordering troops to fire on un-armed civilians is definitely unlawful.
It's called the Law Of Armed Conflict and it's still briefed to any troop deploying to a hot zone.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)That's the Uniformed Code of Military Justice for all you civilians.
SEMPER FORTIS !!
niyad
(113,552 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)Wait; that doesnt work with the current resident, as he is know to have certain fungal qualities...
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)leanforward
(1,077 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)He just has to have a headline every single day. Midterms or not, he's addicted to the rush he gets. It doesn't matter what, just so the media covers it.
I look forward to the day when this doesn't happen, when he's out of office.
DownriverDem
(6,231 posts)There is a law that says a soldier can ignore an illegal order. I abhor trump so much, that if I were in the military when he got elected, I would be looking to get out.
denvine
(802 posts)He didn't serve and he doesn't read or listen to his advisors. He only regurgitates poisonous crap he gets from FOX or some other right wing conspiracy shit hole.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)Much more sense.
Marcuse
(7,506 posts)maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)and if you criticize that, you're a Leftist anti-Semite.
Both sides, everybody. Both sides.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)How is your comment, while true, in anyway relevant to our border?
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Rock-throwing by migrant caravan = summary execution. Our military would be asked to carry out a similar policy, and that's the topic of the OP.
Also, I listened to Noam Chomsky on Amy Goodman this morning and I'm pissed off.
.99center
(1,237 posts)Link to tweet
This would be an unlawful order and should/would be disobeyed.
The Commander in Chief is frighteningly clueless.
Hotler
(11,445 posts)That would be a great yard sign.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Thank you for speaking up, Joe!
His war memoir, The Hooligans of Kandahar, Not All War Stories are Heroic, is getting very good reviews on Amazon and is a best seller in the Afghan War history category.
https://www.amazon.com/Hooligans-Kandahar-Not-Stories-Heroic-ebook/dp/B07D26JRXJ
The Mouth
(3,164 posts)Just bought it due to this thread.
Grammy23
(5,813 posts)He is more than willing for YOU and HIM to fight. Thats just how he thinks. Remember how he encouraged his rally attendees to punch him in the face, get him outta here, Ill pay your legal fees if you get in trouble. Notice he never offered to join the fray. Might mess up his mop on top.
That SOB is a nasty coward. He is more than willing to start the fight with his words and then stand back, safely at a distance, and watch others duke it out. He has ZERO Understanding of rules and laws regarding military response. And he does not care about that. He figures he will get away with anything because often he does. I just hope that soon enough Mueller will lower the boom on him and wipe that smug smile off his ugly mug.
erronis
(15,328 posts)I would never recommend violence against the issuer of illegal commands.
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TNNurse
(6,929 posts)They need to be stating the limits and regulations that apply.
watoos
(7,142 posts)Their silence is scarier than anything cadet bone spurs says.
TomSlick
(11,109 posts)They may not explain to the CinC at all. However, they will issue appropriate "Rules of Engagement" and make sure soldiers understand them.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)It's obvious that even the suggestion is conspiracy to commit a crime, and if someone actually does shoot at a migrant that would indeed be a crime against humanity. Either way it's already sick and perverse and completely UNAMERICAN!
Regime change is an imperative. The traitor in the White House must be removed.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)This is what happens when you elect a psycopath to do the job!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Whats worse than locking children in cages? You got it! Shooting them.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,457 posts)in central Missouri in 2016. He was a staunch Republican. The mail that came from nutty Reich Wing organizations talked about Obama's plans to relocate 100's of thousands of illegal immigrants in central Missouri unless
"Patriots" donated $$$ to these organizations to help Repugs stop it. Point being, the Goobers n Gomers in the hinterlands are motivated by fear of the black n brown man....PERIOD.
The Orange Menace knows how to pull their coverall strings.
keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)Yet staunch republicans will hire an illegal rather than pay an American.
It was a republican illegal who killed Mollie Tibbets in Iowa.
RHMerriman
(1,376 posts)It's simple - a soldier can be Hugh Thompson; or they can be Rusty Calley:
[link:http://www.stripes.com/larry-colburn-the-last-hero-of-my-lai-1.445593|]
Warrant Officer Thompson landed his helicopter in the line of fire between fleeing Vietnamese civilians and pursuing American ground troops to prevent their murder. He then personally confronted the leader of the American ground troops and was prepared to open fire on those American troops should they fire upon the civilians. Warrant Officer Thompson, at the risk of his own personal safety, went forward of the American lines and coaxed the Vietnamese civilians out of the bunker to enable their evacuation.
Warrant Officer Thompsons relayed radio reports of the massacre and subsequent report to his section leader and commander resulted in an order for the ceasefire at My Lai and an end to the killing of innocent civilians. Warrant Officer Thompsons Heroism exemplifies the highest standards of personal courage and ethical conduct, reflecting distinct credit on him, and the United States Army.
- from WO Hugh Thompson's Soldier's Medal citation; the Soldier's Medal is the highest US Army award for valor, at the risk of life, not in action against the enemy.
[link:http://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.445596.1482352117!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_900/image.jpg|]
erronis
(15,328 posts)and will cover up.
TomSlick
(11,109 posts)LT Calley is used as an object lesson in Law of War classes.
RHMerriman
(1,376 posts)and the historical actions of Thompson, Glenn Andreotta, and Lawrence Colburn are presented as exemplars.
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burrowowl
(17,645 posts)A must reading!
Cha
(297,655 posts)Thank You, Joe Kassabian!
marble falls
(57,204 posts)Just in case he still shaves himself in the morning.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Blue Owl
(50,494 posts)sarge43
(28,945 posts)It appears the JCS gave him the Come to Jesus briefing about lethal force, war crimes and unarmed civilian nationals
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142192737
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211356311
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)We keep going down this road, Handmaids tail is going to have to be rebilled as a documentary.
C_U_L8R
(45,020 posts)Trump disgraces our military.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... to ignore it. Damn infuriating.