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This is a fantastic piece of consumer journalism. You just know this happening all over the country, not just in California.
From mid-2008 to this April, 862 licensed used-car dealers about 1 in 8 statewide sold at least one vehicle three or more times, The Times has found.
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Because their clients have little leverage, Buy Here Pay Here dealers can charge interest rates topping 30% and demand large down payments. In some cases, churning can be used to boost profits. Dealers collect large down payments and then repossess quickly when customers default so that the vehicles can be offered for sale again.
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"A lot of these dealers set their customers up for failure," Garrett said. "They see your pay stub. They know how much you make, and they structure your payments so you can't afford them."
Full story: http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-boomerang-cars-20120815,0,4397964,full.story
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)a business has only one function and responsibility , profit no matter how misanthropic.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)which REALLY gets interesting if they are churning a lot of loans.
Whiskeytide
(4,462 posts)... the sub-prime lending orgasm in the early 90s. It gets worse. You sign an arbitration clause now when you buy a car, and that effectively makes it so difficult to hold them accountable that its a waste of time. Very sad history of cash over consumer mentality in the automotive dealer industry.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Surprising to whom?
The terminally naive perhaps..
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)So I guess me.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)a safe dealer from a crooked one? My daughter is looking for her first car. It won't be new, though she's ready to spend a sizable chunk of money. She knows what she wants. I'm not sure how to direct her after reading this. I guess going through a large reputable dealer would be the best bet?
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Whether the car was a trade-in or came from an auction you're paying them a significant mark-up to act as a middle man. She's better off buying private party or from a vehicle auction. In either case get an inspection by a reputable mechanic (get one on a dealer's car too if you wind up at one) and walk away immediately if anybody tries to talk you out of one.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)if the price really plummets you have found a crooked dealer. Most, but not all, "buy here pay here", places will qualify. If they offer weekly payments, run.
Another clue, if you offer cash and they try to move you up to a more expensive car that they will finance... you should know who you are dealing with. I asked one to show me $7000 cars and said that I had it and I would pay cash, they then started driving out $10,000+ cars that they would finance. They had many $7000 cars in the lot but told me "you don't really want one of those". I left.
After a search, I found a good dealer. They did not offer financing at all and the price was the price. I bought a van.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)At the very end of the video segment, the reporter asked one of the bat removal technicians what they do with the captured bats.
He smiled and said "We drive a few miles away and let them go."