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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:48 AM Nov 2018

Broward : They put a polling station in a gated community behind security gates.

http://www.wlrn.org/post/counties-place-polls-gated-communities-florida-voters-are-left-out

When Katherine Polizzi showed up to vote at Le Club Century Village, all she wanted to do was cast her ballot. But she describes a confrontational and unnecessary scene that mirrors complaints about the precinct received by the Broward Supervisor of Elections Office during the primary election on August 28th.



This year the precinct was moved to a building inside a private gated community in Deerfield Beach. Previously it was housed at a community center, says Polizzi.

"To even get in to the gate you needed to show an ID, before you even got to the polling place itself," Polizzi says. After voicing her concerns that the complex was being used as a public polling station, private security workers told her "too bad," she added.

Another voter tweeted a similar complaint about the same precinct, saying "I wouldn't show them ID and they held me at the gate and blamed me for holding the line. Precinct A014."

I wouldn't show them ID and they held me at the gate and blamed me for holding the line. Precinct A014 #Florida #Broward #ElectionDay #Ivoted

— Carlos J. Lugo (@FishinWithFredo) November 6, 2018

During the primary elections in August, two similar complaints were made to the office of Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes.

"Access to the polling station was hindered as it was moved to a gated community -- security checking ID," reads one complaint. A second read: "Did not like the new voting site - Century Village -- gated." The complaints were obtained by WLRN through a public records request sent in September.

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This is pure voter suppression. Through and Through. Not even hiding it.
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Broward : They put a polling station in a gated community behind security gates. (Original Post) sunonmars Nov 2018 OP
If I understand correctly, the polling places are decided on by county hughee99 Nov 2018 #1
Lots of fake Dems in Florida. MoonRiver Nov 2018 #2
So you are suggesting that the people of Broward County, hughee99 Nov 2018 #3
Yes Sunsky Nov 2018 #10
For a fake democrat, she seems to get sued an awful lot by real republicans. hughee99 Nov 2018 #16
Jeb Bush first appointed her,then she won an election. True Blue American Nov 2018 #24
She won several elections in a heavily Dem county since then. hughee99 Nov 2018 #25
Maybe those are fake Republicans fescuerescue Nov 2018 #29
You have to understand the political gamesmanship Sunsky Nov 2018 #30
I agree on that. Regardless of whether she's corrupt of incompetent, she has been poor at her job, hughee99 Nov 2018 #31
Exactly Sunsky Nov 2018 #33
Democrat or Republican, lildDemz Nov 2018 #34
Sunsky, you are correct and I think it is obvious Perseus Nov 2018 #18
That doesn't make the residents, who carried Obama, "fake dems". nt Cetacea Nov 2018 #35
To be far if there are fake ones whos intent is to disrupt an election they are not going cstanleytech Nov 2018 #15
Pam Bondi? nt Phoenix61 Nov 2018 #5
I thought Bondi was a republican? hughee99 Nov 2018 #9
Your "wondering" was answered above quite eloquently. ret5hd Nov 2018 #12
It was Kathleen Harris world wide wally Nov 2018 #11
Katherine Harris. She's always a Republican. unblock Nov 2018 #26
Kathleen Harris. A Trust fund loser. Is she burning in hell yet? Blue_true Nov 2018 #28
I got that wrong. Was not the SoS. It was a supervisor of elections. MoonRiver Nov 2018 #37
I don't remember the Broward supervisor of elections. Blue_true Nov 2018 #40
Brenda Snipe was appointed by Jeb Bush before his brother ran and has fucked up every election. lark Nov 2018 #13
I think this is incompetence. I don't understand why she's been so bad for so long and hughee99 Nov 2018 #19
Yup, this looks more like shitty planning Amishman Nov 2018 #21
I wish I knew what was going on down there? lark Nov 2018 #22
Democrats or not, this is completely unacceptable Cosmocat Nov 2018 #14
I completely agree. This should have been a non-starter. A polling place in a location with hughee99 Nov 2018 #17
YEP Cosmocat Nov 2018 #27
Not just in Deerfield Beach (north Broward near Ft. Lauderdale) FM123 Nov 2018 #4
Added to possibly having some nazi security gop guards stopping people possibly. sunonmars Nov 2018 #7
I'm at a point where the United Nations needs to run the elections in FLA n/t Yavin4 Nov 2018 #6
Meanwhile... ck4829 Nov 2018 #8
Our Country Needs Better and More Uniform Voting Regulations-The "Wild West" Approach is Silly dlk Nov 2018 #20
It seems, as if anything, this Brenda Snipes DOES need to be investigated titaniumsalute Nov 2018 #23
Jim Crow style voter intimidation and suppression. yardwork Nov 2018 #32
They also hide polling places deep within residential communities. n/t Cetacea Nov 2018 #36
There has got to be some federal felony here struggle4progress Nov 2018 #38
2018 Florida Statutes struggle4progress Nov 2018 #39
hmmm elmac Nov 2018 #41

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
1. If I understand correctly, the polling places are decided on by county
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:54 AM
Nov 2018

Officials and the county is heavily dem. Who do you think is suppressing the vote and “not even hiding it”?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
3. So you are suggesting that the people of Broward County,
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:02 AM
Nov 2018

A county that went overwhelmingly for Clinton and Obama, elected “fake Dems” to run their county?

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
10. Yes
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:35 AM
Nov 2018

For example- Our lovely Supervisor of Elections (Brenda Snipes) is a hand picked Jeb Bush appointee, after he fired our SOE in the early 2000s despite protest in Broward county. He knows the electorate in Broward would more than likely not elect a registered Republican and therefore he chose a registered "Democrat". Some old Browardians have forgotten and the newcomers are not aware. The fact that she is a female registered Democrat, she easily won re-election.
Throughout the years that Ms. Snipes has been SOE, Broward has been riddled with issue after issue each election. Once there were ballots found in a dumpster near the SOE office in Lauderhill Florida. Lauderhill has a huge black and Caribbean American population. After that incident many people I know who live near that polling place have opted to earky vote elsewhere, esp. in a more diverse or white neighborhood because they are afraid Brenda will dump their ballots.
I believe Brenda is a snake. My mom calls her, a wolf in sheep's clothing.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
16. For a fake democrat, she seems to get sued an awful lot by real republicans.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:06 AM
Nov 2018

Rick Scott is suing her here
https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/politics/elections/rick-scott-sues-2-florida-counties-accusing-unethical-liberals-of-trying-to-steal-election/67-612832412

She was also recently sued by a conservative organization for not purging the voter rolls sufficiently
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-reg-broward-elections-supervisor-prevails-over-acru-20180330-story.html'

She got sued by the republicans for opening absentee ballots in secret.
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/08/13/judge-sides-with-florida-gop-in-absentee-ballot-dispute-with-broward-county-555553

And these are just this year. Yes, I have no doubt she's not good at her job. That she's had many problems over the last 15 years should be a sign to ACTUAL Dems in Florida to get her replaced and as you said, anyone with the "D" after their name should win, so the concern is not that if they don't let her keep running, they'll lose the seat to a republican.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
25. She won several elections in a heavily Dem county since then.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:41 AM
Nov 2018

If she is actively working against democrats and intentionally creating problems for voters, why has the local Democratic party not sought to replace her? Jeb Bush has been out of power for a decade.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
29. Maybe those are fake Republicans
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:06 PM
Nov 2018

Suing the fake Democrat.

They each know each other fake, but they don't know that the other knows. And they don't think we know.

but we know.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
30. You have to understand the political gamesmanship
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:09 PM
Nov 2018

that goes on between the Republicans and the Democratic stronghold tri-county area (Broward, Miami-Dade and Palm Beach) every close election.
What has ever become of those lawsuits?
Yes, Republicans will sue or critique the tri-county SOEs because they are Democratic strongholds. The goal of these legal challenges are: 1) The negative optics and 2) Disenfranchise Democratic voters by not counting ballots.
Their lawsuits have nothing to do with Brenda but everything to do with the type of voters in this area.
Here is one such frivolous lawsuit http://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/editorials/fl-op-editorial-brenda-snipes-voter-rolls-lawsuit-20180403-story.html

However those lawsuits don't negate the serious problems we have been having under Snipes leadership.
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Voting-Advocates-Want-To-Meet-With-Broward-Supervisor-of-Elections-Report-179228531.html
Why wouldn't she want to listen to the league of women voters?

Here is an example if the political gamesmanship- She was being sued by Canova and monitored by tRick Scott, yet she had a secret meeting the the Republican supervisor of elections. They will not divulge the nature of the meeting, but everything seemed to be squashed afterwards.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-reg-brenda-snipes-ken-detzner-20180523-story.html

In my opinion, we the voters in Broward need to elect our own SOE and not re-elect one who was selected by Bush. More importantly though, I am not happy with her performance throughout the years she has been supervising or elections.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
31. I agree on that. Regardless of whether she's corrupt of incompetent, she has been poor at her job,
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:23 PM
Nov 2018

a very important job, since the start. Perhaps she wasn't replaced initially because the previous person was even worse by comparison, but you shouldn't be able to be this bad for this long and keep this job. Perhaps the republicans have their hooks into her. Maybe the republicans just like the idea of someone this bad at their job working in a Dem stronghold. In either case, the local Dem party should oust her in the next election (they should have done this already).

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
33. Exactly
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:39 PM
Nov 2018

I don't believe the Republicans in FL will have a chance in statewide races if Broward elections are fairly run. Broward, Miami-Dade and Palm Beach are the three largest (by population) counties in Florida and they vote Democratic. The 4th and 5th largest counties also trend Democratic. I don't believe the small population in the Panhandle could overcome that.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
18. Sunsky, you are correct and I think it is obvious
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:08 AM
Nov 2018

I have always believed that some republicans register "Democrat" just so that they can do the bidding for their bosses, and anyone who is paying attention will see that.

This crap of "Blue-Dog Democrats" is just bull, I have always suspected they are republicans registered as Democrats to scerw things up.

cstanleytech

(26,332 posts)
15. To be far if there are fake ones whos intent is to disrupt an election they are not going
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:03 AM
Nov 2018

to wear a sign declaring that they are going to do that as it would defeat the whole purpose.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
9. I thought Bondi was a republican?
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:08 AM
Nov 2018

I was wondering if they thought Brenda Snipes was a “fake dem”.

unblock

(52,352 posts)
26. Katherine Harris. She's always a Republican.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:50 AM
Nov 2018

Wouldn't surprise me if there were fair dems, but Harris isn't one of them.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
37. I got that wrong. Was not the SoS. It was a supervisor of elections.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:03 PM
Nov 2018

I think it was Broward, but can't remember. Sorry.

lark

(23,163 posts)
13. Brenda Snipe was appointed by Jeb Bush before his brother ran and has fucked up every election.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:00 AM
Nov 2018

Either she's a trojan horse installed by Bush for this purpose or Bush found the most incompetent person alive and appointed her to Broward to fuck up the vote there. I hope Gillum fires her and replaces her with someone quite competent. I'm tired of being the butt of national jokes!

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
19. I think this is incompetence. I don't understand why she's been so bad for so long and
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:11 AM
Nov 2018

the people of Broward county (well, the Broward county local Democratic party) hasn't done something about this before now. They're not going to lose this seat, any candidate they run will win. Why haven't they been running a better candidate?

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
21. Yup, this looks more like shitty planning
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:15 AM
Nov 2018

Someone probably glanced at a map and picked a spot based on location and didn't do their homework.

Broward is run by our side but they seem to make a ton of unforced errors

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
14. Democrats or not, this is completely unacceptable
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:02 AM
Nov 2018

This is some get the ACLU involved type shit.

You can't have this kind of limitation to the polls, some private company paid security requiring ID to get into the poll.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
17. I completely agree. This should have been a non-starter. A polling place in a location with
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:08 AM
Nov 2018

limited access to the public should have been shot down the second it was proposed.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
4. Not just in Deerfield Beach (north Broward near Ft. Lauderdale)
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:02 AM
Nov 2018

but also the Century Village in Pembroke Pines (south west Broward just north of Miami)

It is like trying to enter a fortress to get into Century Village (55+ community) on a regular day with cars lined up all the way to Pines boulevard just to visit old relatives and neighbors - I can only imagine what it was like trying to get in there to vote....

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
7. Added to possibly having some nazi security gop guards stopping people possibly.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:04 AM
Nov 2018

Its just ridiculous.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
20. Our Country Needs Better and More Uniform Voting Regulations-The "Wild West" Approach is Silly
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:13 AM
Nov 2018

Our democracy only works if every eligible voter is permitted to vote and their vote is accurately counted. We've seen the many creative ways overt suppression robs Americans of this fundamental right. However, we can fix this if we believe it's important enough and focus our attention, and energy on solutions.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
23. It seems, as if anything, this Brenda Snipes DOES need to be investigated
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:17 AM
Nov 2018

The Republicans better be careful...it almost seems she was helping them, not hurting them until now.

yardwork

(61,712 posts)
32. Jim Crow style voter intimidation and suppression.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:34 PM
Nov 2018

This is unconstitutional but the Kavanaugh Court will not help.

struggle4progress

(118,378 posts)
39. 2018 Florida Statutes
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 03:52 PM
Nov 2018

104.0515?Voting rights; deprivation of, or interference with, prohibited; penalty.—

(1)?All citizens of this state who are otherwise qualified by law to vote at any election by the people in this state or in any district, county, city, town, municipality, school district, or other subdivision of this state shall be entitled and allowed to vote at all such elections without distinction according to race, color, or previous condition of servitude, notwithstanding any law, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage to the contrary.
(2)?No person acting under color of law shall:
(a)?In determining whether any individual is qualified under law to vote in any election, apply any standard, practice, or procedure different from the standards, practices, or procedures applied under law to other individuals within the same political subdivision who have been found to be qualified to vote; or
(b)?Deny the right of any individual to vote in any election because of an error or omission on any record or paper relating to any application, registration, or other act requisite to voting, if such error or omission is not material in determining whether such individual is qualified under law to vote in such election. This paragraph shall apply to vote-by-mail ballots only if there is a pattern or history of discrimination on the basis of race, color, or previous condition of servitude in regard to vote-by-mail ballots.
(3)?No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any other person for the purpose of interfering with the right of such other person to vote or not to vote as that person may choose, or for the purpose of causing such other person to vote for, or not vote for, any candidate for any office at any general, special, or primary election held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any such candidate.
(4)?No voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, and no standard, practice, or procedure, shall be imposed or applied by any political subdivision of this state to deny or abridge the right of any citizen to vote on account of race or color.
(5)?Any person who violates the provisions of this section is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0100-0199/0104/0104.html

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