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pnwmom

(108,978 posts) Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:38 PM Nov 2018

If you won't support making public 5 years of tax returns before running in a Democratic primary,

I don't think you belong here.

We've seen what happens when a candidate refused to release his, and the only way to maintain moral authority on this issue is to require it of our own nominees.

And, no, it isn't in the Constitution. That doesn't matter. The Constitution allows any natural born 35 year old to run. It doesn't require anyone to run AS A DEMOCRAT. Each state party sets its own rules, and this is one they should all agree on.

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If you won't support making public 5 years of tax returns before running in a Democratic primary, (Original Post) pnwmom Nov 2018 OP

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Me. Nov 2018 #1

I would like to see state legislature requiring this of ALL nominees to get on the ballot- dawg day Nov 2018 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #3

I think pnwmom was just using language that echoed and refuted an obnoxious earlier OP. Squinch Nov 2018 #4

Exactly. Thank you, Squinch. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #6

Don't you love it when brand new posters make demands you have to satisfy Squinch Nov 2018 #7

And they were nasty about it too...sigh not looking forward to the next couple of years of this. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #8

I keep "Bernie" as a "trash thread" term and I miss most of that nonsense. Squinch Nov 2018 #13

I am going to do that too...I don't want to get into trouble again. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #18

And really, when you do it you don't miss anything but the trolling and Squinch Nov 2018 #20

It's easy to miss those threads melman Nov 2018 #24

Go away, melman. Squinch Nov 2018 #25

While it is nonsense Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #10

Yet context was provided and you agree with the OPs sentiment and you are still offended. boston bean Nov 2018 #11

I'm not at all offended Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #15

Which was provided to you. And still not good enough. boston bean Nov 2018 #16

Fair play mcar Nov 2018 #5

Check mate. Eko Nov 2018 #9

making tax returns public is nice, but ... JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #12

But I would never vote for a candidate who was so squirrelly about their Squinch Nov 2018 #14

at what level of office? crazycatlady Nov 2018 #17

Presidential, certainly. Don't see why congressional candidates shouldn't be held to it either. Squinch Nov 2018 #19

This is a bad trend, imo. yardwork Nov 2018 #21

How many congressional candidates released theirs? crazycatlady Nov 2018 #23

Defending or making excuses for racists who refuse to vote for AA candidates... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #22

I'd like to see electorate vote against those that don't. Hoyt Nov 2018 #26

Me.

(35,454 posts)

1. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:39 PM

Nov 2018

dawg day

(7,947 posts)

2. I would like to see state legislature requiring this of ALL nominees to get on the ballot-

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:42 PM

Nov 2018

... so that Dems don't end up at a disadvantage as Clinton did, being honest while the GOPer was completely dishonest.

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Sherman A1 This message was self-deleted by its author.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

4. I think pnwmom was just using language that echoed and refuted an obnoxious earlier OP.

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:20 PM

Nov 2018

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)

6. Exactly. Thank you, Squinch. n/t

Reply to Squinch (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:26 PM

Nov 2018

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

7. Don't you love it when brand new posters make demands you have to satisfy

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:30 PM

Nov 2018

"or you don't belong here?"

I just love that.

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)

8. And they were nasty about it too...sigh not looking forward to the next couple of years of this.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:33 PM

Nov 2018

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

13. I keep "Bernie" as a "trash thread" term and I miss most of that nonsense.

Reply to Demsrule86 (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:10 AM

Nov 2018

I looked in without logging in and saw that and other threads obviously designed to divide us and couldn't believe that shit was still going on. Some people don't know when to move on.

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)

18. I am going to do that too...I don't want to get into trouble again.

Reply to Squinch (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:36 AM

Nov 2018

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

20. And really, when you do it you don't miss anything but the trolling and

Reply to Demsrule86 (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:37 AM

Nov 2018

the breathless, "Bernie sneezed and thus sneezing was invented!" threads.

melman

(7,681 posts)

24. It's easy to miss those threads

Reply to Squinch (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:18 PM

Nov 2018

Considering they don't actually exist.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

25. Go away, melman.

Reply to melman (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 07:20 PM

Nov 2018

Docreed2003

(16,861 posts)

27. While it is nonsense

Reply to Squinch (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:25 PM

Nov 2018

It is nice to have long-standing, respected posters like yourself hoping in to those threads!

Response to Squinch (Reply #4)

Sherman A1 This message was self-deleted by its author.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)

11. Yet context was provided and you agree with the OPs sentiment and you are still offended.

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 07:18 AM

Nov 2018

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

15. I'm not at all offended

Reply to boston bean (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:15 AM

Nov 2018

But I have a solution for these threads.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)

16. Which was provided to you. And still not good enough.

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:34 AM

Nov 2018

mcar

(42,334 posts)

5. Fair play

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:24 PM

Nov 2018

Eko

(7,311 posts)

9. Check mate.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:05 PM

Nov 2018

Great Job!!!!!! Ha Ha! K&R'd!!!!

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,343 posts)

12. making tax returns public is nice, but ...

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:09 AM

Nov 2018

... it's pretty far down my list of issues.

Health care, education, supreme court, budget, infrastructure, many more important issues.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

14. But I would never vote for a candidate who was so squirrelly about their

Reply to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:12 AM

Nov 2018

finances that they were unwilling to show their taxes. If they won't, there us something in them they don't want us to see.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)

17. at what level of office?

Reply to Squinch (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:53 AM

Nov 2018

I just worked for a candidate who didn't release his tax returns. His opponent kept asking him to (and didn't release his own). The reason he gave that it was unprecedented for a congressional candidate to release tax returns, the the GOP congressman didn't release his own and didn't ask Trump to release his.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)

19. Presidential, certainly. Don't see why congressional candidates shouldn't be held to it either.

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:34 AM

Nov 2018

Though I know it is not likely to become a norm at the congressional level. It should be though. Many get rich off their public service and we should be able to know about that.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)

21. This is a bad trend, imo.

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:37 AM

Nov 2018

Candidates who don't release their tax returns are hiding something. Trump is clearly hiding things by not releasing his.

I get that Democrats feel that it puts them at an unfair advantage to release theirs when opponents won't, but this is a bad trend toward secrecy.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)

23. How many congressional candidates released theirs?

Reply to yardwork (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:16 PM

Nov 2018

If one person challenges their opponent to release his (her) taxes, then they should do the same.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

22. Defending or making excuses for racists who refuse to vote for AA candidates...

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:42 AM

Nov 2018

... is, in my humble opinion, something that disqualifies someone from consideration.

Each state party sets its own rules, and this is one they should all agree on.

Anyone who refuses to release their tax returns is effectively shut-out as being a viable Democratic contender. At that point, his/her only option would be to run as a spoiler "Independent" or "Green" candidate to circumvent the party rules. All I'm saying is that this would (for vanity purposes) only serve to sabotage the Democrat and guarantee that Trump serves another full term.

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

26. I'd like to see electorate vote against those that don't.

Reply to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 07:47 PM

Nov 2018

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