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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:21 AM Nov 2018

U.S. Postal Service investigates ballots mailed through Opa-locka facility

The U.S. Postal Service is investigating its handling of absentee ballots mailed through a sorting facility in Opa-locka to “verify that all ballots have been handled in accordance to USPS service standards.”

A small group of activists gathered outside the federal building on Friday claiming possible voter suppression and sharing photographs they claimed showed scores of uncounted ballots sitting inside the facility’s mail room.

“At this time, we have no information to suggest any ballots were not properly handled and provided to local election officials, per our established process,” said Debra J. Fetterly, a USPS spokesperson with the South Florida District. “The Postal Service recommends that ballots be mailed as early as possible, in order to receive a postmark prior to or on Election Day.”

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article221442850.html#storylink=cpy

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U.S. Postal Service investigates ballots mailed through Opa-locka facility (Original Post) mfcorey1 Nov 2018 OP
I believe they held onto those ballots, because I've tracked packages that have gone Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #1
I'm not buying the excuse that they didn't send those ballots on their way because it was after the Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #2
Don't know. Igel Nov 2018 #3

Baitball Blogger

(46,723 posts)
1. I believe they held onto those ballots, because I've tracked packages that have gone
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:50 AM
Nov 2018

through USPS and it isn't uncommon for the package to stall at their sites for up to four days.

Baitball Blogger

(46,723 posts)
2. I'm not buying the excuse that they didn't send those ballots on their way because it was after the
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:15 AM
Nov 2018

election. Seriously, post office? You INTENTIONALLY held onto ballots? Is that the job of the post office?

Igel

(35,317 posts)
3. Don't know.
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:16 PM
Nov 2018

Depends on what the arrangement is for picking up/delivering mail. It sounds like they've arranged for pick up, not delivery, of the mail bins with mail-in ballots.

If it's agreed that the customer will pick up the mail because there's a large amount of it, then after the last pick up on 11/6 the post office would wait until the next pick up by the customer. The BOE has a 10-day window for certain classes of ballots, and the only ballots they care about are those in those specific classes--overseas votes, for instance. Meanwhile, back on the farm, the BOE staff are busy with all kinds of other things to deal with--sorting, counting, reconciling records, preparing for the final canvassing of the machines or books. The stacks of ballots that arrived late are immaterial until the 10-day window is past. Personally, I'd wait until near COB on day 10, pick up all the bins with ballots, and on day 11 sort them. At that point the mess in the office would be cleared up, all the valid ballots received by election day would have been counted and stowed some place, machines canvassed, and there'd be little risk of mixing late arrivals with those received on time. On day 11, pull out the late ballots in the proper categories, dispose of the rest, and count those which are valid.

I wouldn't expect the PO under those circumstances to deliver the ballots after election day. In fact, if they tried to deliver them I'd have them put in a storeroom as close to the delivery entrance as possible, and make that room off limits--once those ballots are opened and the envelopes disposed of, you can't tell valid from invalid ballots, so it's like having barrels of toxic waste on site. Nor would I expect the PO to dispose of them. "Held" isn't a term in the article, but it would suffice. Secure, safely separated from known valid ballots, waiting for action.

It would be different if the election law said "all ballots postmarked by the day before election day"--then some would still be arriving on 11/7 and 11/8 and tapering off by 11/11 and 11/12. I personally think that's a horrible criterion, though, because some might still arrive on 11/18 and 11/25 and 12/15.

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