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Cyrano

(15,041 posts) Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:10 PM Nov 2018

Can ownership of the House stop the rot of fascism from destroying us?

A madman is president. The senate is owned by the madman. The Supreme Court is okay with it.

An improbable "perfect storm" has occurred. And it has fucked us for, perhaps, many decades to come.

Yes, we won the House. And we also won the Senate, but it was stolen from us in so many places.

But at this time, we have no say regarding the Presidency, the Senate, or the supreme Court.

And those three entities are fucking us, and fucking up America, every single day.

We can be a thorn in the side of those who currently "own" America. But we can't make changes.

So here's the bottom line and also, my question. What do we do for the next four years? Can ownership of the House stop the fascism that is slowly creeping into and across America? Is our control of one of the levers of power enough to save us from the horrible darkness that has descended on out country?

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Can ownership of the House stop the rot of fascism from destroying us? (Original Post) Cyrano Nov 2018 OP

It's a start! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #1

No lsewpershad Nov 2018 #2

It's better than NOT having the house. pangaia Nov 2018 #3

We keep doing what we are doing. marylandblue Nov 2018 #4

I very much fear it will take the usual remedy for deposing despots librechik Nov 2018 #5

No. J_William_Ryan Nov 2018 #6

not "next four years", not two. We need to build on midterm victories.get read for take back senate Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #7

can't stop it but slow it down. No legislation the House passes will ever become law unless trump beachbum bob Nov 2018 #8

At least we've changed the super highway to facism into a sidestreet world wide wally Nov 2018 #9

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)

1. It's a start! n/t

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:15 PM

Nov 2018

lsewpershad

(2,620 posts)

2. No

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:16 PM

Nov 2018

But it's a start and it is up to us.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)

3. It's better than NOT having the house.

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

Nov 2018

Jeeze, that's about all I know.

Fascism is not 'slowly creeping,'
Next 4 years? Maybe WHAT next 4 years?

When does he have the media for good?
When does he have the military?

I'm just throwing out questions because I agree with you...

Too many people here do not see what is really happening, including me. Most democrat politicians I think don;t know or will not admit what is happening And 'god' knows the American populace to a great degree doesn;t know.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)

4. We keep doing what we are doing.

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:19 PM

Nov 2018

Taking the House back is just one stop. We have to continue protesting, organizing, reaching out, voting and winning. Most importantly, we reclaim the banner of patriotism and it's symbols from those with a narrow view America. This is a long term battle for America's soul.

librechik

(30,674 posts)

5. I very much fear it will take the usual remedy for deposing despots

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:21 PM

Nov 2018

the confederates are acting like nothing less than that can satisfy their ire.

I'm talking about blood of the young and innocent in the streets

We MUST DO BETTER and quickly.

J_William_Ryan

(1,753 posts)

6. No.

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:21 PM

Nov 2018

But control of the House has stopped the reckless, irresponsible, and wrongheaded Trump/GOP agenda.

Social Security, Medicare, and the ACA are safe for now – at least with regard to the political process – and there’ll be no wall of fear, bigotry, and hate.

But the judiciary is lost, at least for the next 40 years, and will be useless to the people to fight the neo-fascist right in the courts.

We need to continue to fight against rightist authoritarianism through the political process, to take control of the Senate and place a Democrat in the WH come 2021.

And most importantly, start taking control of state governments to repeal Republican hate legislation and to prevent such legislation from being enacted.

Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)

7. not "next four years", not two. We need to build on midterm victories.get read for take back senate

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:24 PM

Nov 2018

and presidency in 2020.. We fought back to almost even on the governorships.. that huge. The country is bluer after the midterms, we need to build on that in 2020.

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)

8. can't stop it but slow it down. No legislation the House passes will ever become law unless trump

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Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:25 PM

Nov 2018

approves it

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)

9. At least we've changed the super highway to facism into a sidestreet

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Sat Nov 10, 2018, 12:36 PM

Nov 2018

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