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Cyrano

(15,041 posts) Sat Nov 10, 2018, 02:55 PM Nov 2018

So about stolen elections in Tex., FL, and Georgia

Do I have proof? Can I show you a smoking gun? No and no.

Nonetheless ... is there anyone here on DU who doesn't know that these are states that Republicans can only "win" through voter suppression, purged voting lists, "lost' and uncounted votes, and every other filthy tactic imaginable.

And now, they've done it again. Recounts are on the table in FL and Georgia. (Don't know about Texas.) Who knows what will happen? But if it goes to the Supreme Court, you damn well know how it will end.

A few Senate seats and governorships have been pulled out from under us and here we are. Fucked again. This must stop or we will all soon be citizens of a dictatorship.

(BTW, I've seen posts here on DU that imply the only way to end it is through conflict -- a second Civil War. Such posts may be from well-meaning people. But my guess is that they have no concept of the reality of war. No one who has ever seen war first hand came out whole. And none ever want to see it again. So let's stop all the Civil War talk. Please. Please.)

That still leaves us with the problem of how to counter the Republican corruption of our voting system. Unfortunately, I don't have the answer. But I know it must stop if America is to survive as a free, democratic country.

Suggestions?

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So about stolen elections in Tex., FL, and Georgia (Original Post) Cyrano Nov 2018 OP

... definitely a civil war with weapons is not the answer. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #1

FWIW. We might want to encourage more liberals/progressives to run for election boards/commissions alwaysinasnit Nov 2018 #2

"recount" because no human beings have counted anything yet questionseverything Nov 2018 #3

Personally I think this should be a major campaign issue unblock Nov 2018 #4

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)

1. ... definitely a civil war with weapons is not the answer. n/t

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Sat Nov 10, 2018, 03:05 PM

Nov 2018

alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)

2. FWIW. We might want to encourage more liberals/progressives to run for election boards/commissions

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 03:50 PM

Nov 2018

that oversee vote tabulations and determining who qualifies for a provisional ballots, then making sure EVERY qualified vote is counted.

questionseverything

(9,655 posts)

3. "recount" because no human beings have counted anything yet

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 04:06 PM

Nov 2018

even if the .25% threshold is met...in florida only ballots the machines kicks out are counted by humans?

does anyone know if I am understanding that correctly?

because that would be bs

that would be no check on the machines

unblock

(52,243 posts)

4. Personally I think this should be a major campaign issue

Reply to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2018, 04:24 PM

Nov 2018

The Democratic Party is the democracy party.

The government should not have the power to take away your vote, period.

We should propose comprehensive voting reforms.

No gerrymandering (independent commission)
Easy registration (motor voter, etc.)
Difficult voter roll purging (e.g., only on confirmation that the voter is deceased or has registered to vote elsewhere)
Mail-in ballots
Opportunity to correct clerical issues
Voting over multiple days
Easy access to multiple polling locations
Oversupply of ballots
No disenfranchisement for any reason (every citizen 18 or over can vote, period)
Strong limits on campaign finance, e.g., no corporate donations, period (not a curtailment of free speech as owners remain free to make donations)
Rank order voting (ability to vote for a second choice, etc)
Count every vote.

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