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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:12 PM Nov 2018

There is a world of difference between voluntary unity and coerced unity.

The first type is the result of " I prefer candidate A and will support her/him in the primaries, but will work my ass off for WHOEVER the Democrats nominate."

The second is the result of "Prove you are serious about unity by nominating candidate B, but if you don't, I might write in candidate B or vote for a third party candidate."

No one likes being extorted.

Voluntary unity produces not just votes, but phone-bankers, canvassers, sign posters and---ENTHUSIASM that has a ripple effect through the community

Coerced unity produces resentment, fewer hours volunteered and, inevitably, fewer votes.

I have not picked a candidate yet, but I'll make you a deal: If my person isn't tne nominee and yours is, I'll do all I can to elect OUR candidate. I hope you will do the same if my favorite wins the Democratic nomination.

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There is a world of difference between voluntary unity and coerced unity. (Original Post) Atticus Nov 2018 OP
Amen Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #1
Yep manor321 Nov 2018 #2
I have always done that. murielm99 Nov 2018 #3
I thought some needed a reminder. nt Atticus Nov 2018 #4
For a post with a silly premise inviting dissension, it concluded Hortensis Nov 2018 #5
Hillary would certainly not be my choice for 2020, but are you saying that IF she was the Atticus Nov 2018 #6
I'd removed the joke about her. Some people are Hortensis Nov 2018 #7
We're good. nt Atticus Nov 2018 #8
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
2. Yep
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:16 PM
Nov 2018

Yep. There are millions of voters each doing their own thing. The winner will be the winner. For the last few decades, my first choice has rarely won the nomination. That's how it goes. Especially in a wide diverse party like ours.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. For a post with a silly premise inviting dissension, it concluded
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:33 PM
Nov 2018

fairly reasonably. But no one should agree to support any unknown candidate, and some commit to candidates based on campaign rhetoric, while I focus on character and competence; so much as I'd like to accept what would probably turn into an acceptable deal, no.

Itm, let's all just note that there is no such thing as forced unity. That's the type of fallacy known as a false premise.

No one ever has to vote for the candidate chosen by a majority of Democrats. So no need to even pretend to worry.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
6. Hillary would certainly not be my choice for 2020, but are you saying that IF she was the
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:41 PM
Nov 2018

nominee, you would not vote for her if Trump was the alternative?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. I'd removed the joke about her. Some people are
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:53 PM
Nov 2018

way too pokable. And I've already offered one explanation about false arguments.

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