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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo Red State Dems.. re: social dynamics
whether you were born in a red state or got transported there.
Constantly looking for a hint that someone might, just might, be with us?
Tricky game. We went to a big birthday party tonight, and met a girl who I thought was cool. Her daughter lives in OC, and I asked about the fire, and she spoke about the smoke and the horrors. So, I took a leap and said, "Can you believe trump said it was California's fault?"
She said "Yes, California has no rules with camping. They voted against informing campers and banning campfires when the forest/land is dry. So yes, president Trump was right."
WTF -- surely this is not true.
TygrBright
(20,763 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)DBoon
(22,395 posts)and they are strictly enforced.
WhiteTara
(29,721 posts)would be totally ineffective.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,469 posts)FIRES are permitted only in facilities provided for this purpose. This is necessary to prevent disastrous fires. Portable stoves may be used in designated areas. It is the responsibility of every visitor to use extreme caution with any burning materials, including tobacco. All fireworks are prohibited.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)on all roads and highways everywhere that you are under a Burn Ban. No fires whatsoever. No campfires. No leaf burning. No cigarettes out the window,. Nothing. State and federal campgrounds enforce,
California doesnt do that?
LeftInTX
(25,490 posts)Or you can ask, "What did you think of the election results?"
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)To discussing anything other than the mundane
LeftInTX
(25,490 posts)I usually discuss politics in political situations such as block walking etc.
Sometimes I would just ask people if they were Republican. I was usually wearing a Beto shirt, so if they kinda had a blank look, I would just ask them if they were Republican and usually they would say they were.
If you want to meet Democrats, you could go to some local Democratic meetings.
LeftInTX
(25,490 posts)Controlled burns and under growth removal are performed in National Forests by the USDA to prevent large fires. Brush accumulates over years, dries and it becomes fuel for fire.
The problem is the Forestry Service has been underfunded and that is why so much brush has accumulated.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)People live and breath love of the land. Bet they are livid about this, I tried to communicate with old friends there...but I could tell they were worried about being candid in an email.
msongs
(67,433 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Or a family member, she may get slapped to next week.
It truly is a cult. If he broke out the cool-aid lots of them would drink greedily.
Kittycow
(2,396 posts)Yes, Virginia, they voted to have no rules about campfires and never to tell the public about dry conditions. Especially in a state that's ravaged by wildfire every year.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)in TX. CA rules even include what you can and can't do with home bbq'ing. I have been debating about pressing her on all this - with facts - but not sure it would be taken well since her precious daughter now lives in OC. It's what we face every day in a red state. Whether or not to try and educate vs. becoming a social pariah. I know, it's hard to understand unless you live among these people. You can either bite your tongue and have some semblance of a social life (not a good one, but one nevertheless)...or just live in a complete bubble.