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backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:12 AM Aug 2012

After the UK threatened to storm the Equadorian embassy, do you really think...

that the UK's so hot and bothered about a questionable accusation of date rape?

Would the UK really threaten to storm an embassy of a sovereign nation over this?

If you really believe it's over a broken condom, then I've got beachfront property in the Sahara I'd like to sell you...

Excuse me for donating some money to Wikileaks. Yep, the site's back up, and they've got donations up and running again! If you're using VISA/Mastercard, you'll be going through a French bank to sidestep VISA/Mastercard's unethical embargo, but yes, you can contribute!

http://wikileaks.org/

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Raster

(20,998 posts)
2. There is far more to this than Assange's sexual proclivities.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:24 AM
Aug 2012

This is about an international superpower pissed as hell that their dirty linen has been aired for all to see. This is about making a very loud example of anyone that would dare to cross the American Military-Industrial Complex.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
6. True.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:54 AM
Aug 2012

I am just praying that Assange will be safe and that he never gets into Sweden, UK or US hands.
All these named countries are behaving like fascists.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. For a broken condom? And we're not even sure of that as there are still no charges!
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:34 AM
Aug 2012

No, I don't think they would storm an Embassy over that. I think he's got something else that they are worried.

After the 'defection' Gobshite Berg (sorry, couldn't resist) and his theft of the Wikileaks docs on the Banks, claiming he was just holding them until Wikileaks improved their security, but then destroyed them, they probably thought they got everything that could damage the Banks.

But I wonder if Assange never fully trusted Berg especially in the last few months when things were 'tense' between them suddenly, and kept some things from him.

But the Brits could care less about a broken condom in Sweden so it definitely is not about that. Assange and Correa foiled the plot to get him Sweden and they are angry. So angry they lost their reason it seems. Bullies, Empires and their lap dogs do not like to be foiled especially after putting so much effort into something.

They better remember Assanges threat also, about sending out a key to thousands of sites if anything happens to him.

I would say that if this is true, storming the Embassy, it proves the case he tried to make about his fears and he should probably now go to the European Court of Human Rights as it's clear there will not be justice for him in Britain.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
5. To my understanding
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:54 AM
Aug 2012

appeal to European Court of Human Rights - for which Assange was given only 14 days - would not have stopped him ending up in Swedish prison and then quite likely in US - so Assange decided instead to seek asylum in embassy of Ecuador.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
7. True, but that was then. Now with this new threat from the British Government
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:03 AM
Aug 2012

something they need to explain as to invade an embassy where someone has been given sanctuary is a pretty frightening, more like a Third World Dictatorship tactic. It means he is not safe in Britain. A court case might force them to reveal what was so important that they would risk taking such a drastic step. But it's obviously not because of some minor allegations in Sweden where he has not even been charged.

I guess Britain needs to explain this as it makes no sense whatsoever.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
9. "Rule of Law" in all of EU (etc)
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:26 AM
Aug 2012

has been a sick joke for a long time. CIA renditions and torture - for which e.g. Sweden was condemned by UNHRC but has failed to respond to that in any responsible way -, all the unlawful measures to bail out Euro and Banks, etc.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. I know. I am just trying to be optimistic but without much real hope of any kind
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:40 AM
Aug 2012

of justice anymore.

Maybe this case will be a catalyst to other countries, such as in Latin America to throw out all British, US and Swedish ambassadors from their countries, cut them off from what they want most, the resources they so badly need. If enough countries did at one time, it would have an impact. It would be nice of African and Middle Eastern countries joined such an action.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
14. Law has little to do with justice
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:08 AM
Aug 2012

It's been often pointed that law is the greatest injustice in the world. What was funny about the Australian document on Assange was the relevetion of FBI agents so afraid of Anonymous that they didn't give their names to the former Wikileaks employee... what Anonymous does is not legal, but it's very often effective social justice. Greek people throwing yoghurt and other stuff at their corrupt politicians and denying them freedom of movement is not lawful, but it's social justice.

I don't think UK is really ready to risk most of OAS countries sending British ambassadors home by invading Ecuador embassy, but who knows...

Swagman

(1,934 posts)
11. and if the UK invades the embassy, there will be British & US embassies burning within days
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:41 AM
Aug 2012

around the world. There are bound to be deaths and embassy staff everywhere should be frightened.

The UK is now the USA’s ‘bitch’.

When friendly Spain tried to extradite the mass murdering Pinochet the UK put every obstacle in it’s way while Margaret Thatcher praised him for bringing ‘democracy’ to Chile which involved flinging opposition leaders from helicopters and despite Chile already having a democratically elected government, overthrown by Pinochet in a murderous coup.

When PC Yvonne Fletcher was shot dead from the window of the hostile Libyan Embassy the entire staff were escorted to Heathrow to fly to safety.

Now an alleged condom breaker threatens a diplomatic incident because the USA wants him and what they want, they get.

Which one is the rogue nation in this black is white scenario?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. You are right. So you have to wonder, this is not about a broken condom in Sweden.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:43 AM
Aug 2012

I think he has other information on the corruption that brought down Europe's economy which the Wikileaks 'defector, Berg, did not manage to steal when he left. Something bigger than the trumped up case in Sweden is causing them to take such drastic actions which could have so many huge ramifications.

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