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Siwsan

(26,286 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 12:25 PM Nov 2018

When you think about it, trump* appears to have NO family history of military service

At least not for the past 3, or so, generations, and on to his children. He has no concept of public service. It's a foreign concept - like something from another planet, for him.

I can't find a generation, in my family, where more than one family member WASN'T serving. Some were drafted. Some enlisted. All served so I was raised with an immense respect for those currently serving, and our Veterans. I watched two uncles carry horrific emotional burdens because of what they saw and experienced. No one will ever convince me that their early deaths weren't directly attributable to their combat experiences.

For the past two days I've seen trump* begrudgingly go through the motions of faking compassion and respect. And you know he's only there because he can see Putin, which royally pisses me off.

Sorry - I'm in a bit of a lather, this morning. As soon as the sun is over the yardarm, I'm breaking out the scotch.

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When you think about it, trump* appears to have NO family history of military service (Original Post) Siwsan Nov 2018 OP
I wonder if any Kushner has ever served? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #1
Same here. Every generation in my family has been involved in the service for as SweetieD Nov 2018 #2
The republican Klan of Draft-Dodging Chickenhawks is one sorry pack of wankers Achilleaze Nov 2018 #3
Don't forget the related but distinct Order of the Blue Falcon! Still In Wisconsin Nov 2018 #6
Blur Falcon sycophant John Kelly. keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #18
Rich people have been sending others off to fight for generations. Still In Wisconsin Nov 2018 #4
Centuries, actually. It's an old tradition, that America was supposed to be better than. nt Hekate Nov 2018 #17
The orange anus attended New York Military Academy prep school - That's got to count for something Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #5
Donald got a medal for it. keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #19
Cool, I had to get drafted then get assigned to Combat Engineers (CE) to win my castle Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #22
No need to apologize. The emotions are strong e today. MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #7
One of my great-uncles fought in World War I Siwsan Nov 2018 #11
I was just thinking about that today MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #13
My nephew made the decision to not re-enlist, right after the 2016 election Siwsan Nov 2018 #15
Smart move. My father was a civilian employee after serving in WWII MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #16
Thank you, also for serving MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #14
Aww, com'on... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2018 #8
A great and very brave soldier keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #21
Just like the Romneys central scrutinizer Nov 2018 #9
Riding on Daddy's campaign bus was equivalent to military service to the Romney boys. keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #20
They are all cowards. A family tree of cowards. shockey80 Nov 2018 #10
My family tree goes back before the founding fathers were born. shockey80 Nov 2018 #12
So...let me see if I have this right jmowreader Nov 2018 #23
Well, not in my universe, it doesn't! Siwsan Nov 2018 #24

Eliot Rosewater

(31,113 posts)
1. I wonder if any Kushner has ever served?
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 12:39 PM
Nov 2018

Rump is such a fucking coward he couldnt even go out into the rain to honor veterans.
Obama of course did just that.

Trump would last 3 hours, maybe, in boot camp of any military branch, not one full day, not possible.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
2. Same here. Every generation in my family has been involved in the service for as
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 12:43 PM
Nov 2018

Long as I can remember. I have family who were in the civil war, wwi, wwii, Korea, Vietnam and my brother just retired after completing his service term.

I would think it would be rare for most Americans to have never had anyone in the military for generation after generation.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
4. Rich people have been sending others off to fight for generations.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 12:47 PM
Nov 2018

Not all rich people, mind you, do this. But having lots and lots of money has always been a way out of serving.


Brother Buzz

(36,454 posts)
5. The orange anus attended New York Military Academy prep school - That's got to count for something
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 12:48 PM
Nov 2018

"I always felt like I was in the military. (I got) more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military." - Trump

Brother Buzz

(36,454 posts)
22. Cool, I had to get drafted then get assigned to Combat Engineers (CE) to win my castle
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:49 PM
Nov 2018

Although there was nothing neat or orderly about it


MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
7. No need to apologize. The emotions are strong e today.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 12:59 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:10 AM - Edit history (1)

What person of European background today of all days is not feeling the weight of history. Two horrible world wars, a Cold War that nearly destroyed mankind, wars in Asia, family members forever changed. There can only be one human being so calloused and uncaring this weekend to have no reflection, no empathy, no gratitude, no guilt for what our family members have experienced. 45’s grandfather was a German draft dodger. His lack of sense of duty is genetic.

Siwsan

(26,286 posts)
11. One of my great-uncles fought in World War I
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 01:23 PM
Nov 2018

All in all, I had 5 uncles in World War II - two in full combat, one served in England as a pilot trainer but also flew reconnaissance. Two were stationed state side.

My Dad enlisted in the Marines as soon as he was out of high school, but by the time he was finished with training, the fighting was over. He was in President Truman's Honor Guard.

One uncle in the Korean conflict but his appendix burst just before he was due to be sent over. He was re-assigned and spent the rest of his time in Germany. The exact same thing happened to a cousin, during Vietnam. Another cousin enlisted but was stationed in Japan.

I'm a Navy Vet and my nephew is an Air Force Vet. So, we've continued a family tradition that goes straight back to the Revolutionary War, on my Dad's side of the family. Something tells me that tradition might be coming to an end, but we'll see.

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
13. I was just thinking about that today
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:01 PM
Nov 2018

My grandfather and great-uncles served in WWI; my father and uncle served in WWII, 2 uncles served after WWII, 2 cousins served during Vietnam era, one cousin lifetime Air Force, but after that, zero. None of the nieces, nephews, younger cousins have served.
On the one hand, I am happy that wars have not mandated service. On the other hand, I am worried that service will be relegated to poor people and that the elites will never have to serve.

Siwsan

(26,286 posts)
15. My nephew made the decision to not re-enlist, right after the 2016 election
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:06 PM
Nov 2018

He was able to migrate into pretty much the same job, but as a civilian employee.

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
16. Smart move. My father was a civilian employee after serving in WWII
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:08 PM
Nov 2018

He fed 8 children with that salary and had a decent retirement. He said the federal government was the best union you could ever belong to.

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
14. Thank you, also for serving
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 04:05 PM
Nov 2018

Even short of war, I am horrified by the loss of privacy and power to make my own decisions. I admire anyone who can withstand military training.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,767 posts)
8. Aww, com'on...
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018

He avoided STD’s when he was single remember? It was his personal Vietnam. Gotta count for something.

keithbvadu2

(36,869 posts)
20. Riding on Daddy's campaign bus was equivalent to military service to the Romney boys.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:24 PM
Nov 2018

Riding on Daddy's campaign bus was equivalent to military service to the Romney boys.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
12. My family tree goes back before the founding fathers were born.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 01:33 PM
Nov 2018

I believe there is a FEW veterans in my family tree. I am one. Trumps family tree is full of greedy cowards. They make the money off wars.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
23. So...let me see if I have this right
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:53 PM
Nov 2018

Getting shipped off to military school with the goddamn Finkelstein shit kid doesn't count as military service?

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