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octoberlib

(14,971 posts) Wed Nov 14, 2018, 03:28 PM Nov 2018

Matt Fuller of HuffPo- Pelosi doesn't have the numbers say Dem members of Congress

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Multiple Democratic members who publicly support Pelosi are speculating to me on background that she doesn’t have the numbers and can’t get there.

I'd have to know who gave him this info before I freak out. I hope we don't end up with #FiveWhiteGuys Tim Ryan.

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Matt Fuller of HuffPo- Pelosi doesn't have the numbers say Dem members of Congress (Original Post) octoberlib Nov 2018 OP

She doesn't have the numbers against whom? haele Nov 2018 #1

.... octoberlib Nov 2018 #4

There is no named opponent. If Dems vote against Pelosi and Kevin McCarthy gets more votes, hlthe2b Nov 2018 #2

Thank you for your concern, Matt gratuitous Nov 2018 #3

If they push Nancy out and screw up 2020, they are going to be hammered. chowder66 Nov 2018 #5

They're getting hell on Twitter. Ryan's the one who wants the job but they're getting called out octoberlib Nov 2018 #6

Circular firing squad at it again. Power over party...in spades!!!! Let's get rid of Them. libdem4life Nov 2018 #7

You don't hear the same people demanding Schumer stand down, Cha Nov 2018 #8

haele

(12,676 posts)

1. She doesn't have the numbers against whom?

Reply to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2018, 03:38 PM

Nov 2018

Who is being put up against her who will get more numbers? Methinks "Multiple Democratic members" are ones who are saying to him "Well, I think we Democrats need a change of leadership, but..." and Mr. Fuller is jumping to the conclusion that "She doesn't have the numbers and can't get there" - as if the Dems haven't flipped the House already and she's running for Minority Leader.
So far, I haven't heard of anyone actually making the moves to go up against her. They'd have been reported going around making deals already.

I'm wondering, did #FiveWhiteGuys thumb-wrestle yet to see which of them was going to make the strafing run against her?
Are these good "3rd Way" alternatives sure that all these brand new women and women of color who have been elected will ditch her and vote for one of them "politically realistic he-men"?
Or do they think they can muster a coalition of moderates and brand new radicals with no D.C. experience to oust her and/or any of the other Senior House Dems she's put in for leadership roles already?

Haele

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)

4. ....

Reply to haele (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2018, 04:02 PM

Nov 2018

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New focus from anti-Pelosi members like Tim Ryan is pointing out the women in their group, like Marcia Fudge and Kathleen Rice.

Ryan and others pushing narrative that a woman should be Speaker, just not Pelosi.

I'm 100% convinced Fuller's sources were the #FiveWhiteGuys

hlthe2b

(102,360 posts)

2. There is no named opponent. If Dems vote against Pelosi and Kevin McCarthy gets more votes,

Reply to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2018, 03:52 PM

Nov 2018

then KEVIN MCCARTHY (REPUGNANT) becomes SPEAKER. Do you all realize this who want anyone but Pelosi?!

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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)

3. Thank you for your concern, Matt

Reply to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2018, 04:00 PM

Nov 2018

That shit's not going to stir itself, is it? And "Dems in Disarray®" is so much more familiar territory than covering that dumpster fire at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue.

So, come January 3 when this tweet has aged very, very badly Matt, what will you say then? Will there be any sanction or penalty for being so wrong?

What am I saying? Of course there won't be any consequences.

chowder66

(9,080 posts)

5. If they push Nancy out and screw up 2020, they are going to be hammered.

Reply to octoberlib (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2018, 04:06 PM

Nov 2018

I think they are stupid for trying to push her out now. They should be learning from her and prepare to nominate someone else after 2020.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)

6. They're getting hell on Twitter. Ryan's the one who wants the job but they're getting called out

Reply to chowder66 (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2018, 04:12 PM

Nov 2018

so now they're saying "No, seriously, we want a woman just not THAT woman". I have nothing against Fudge and Rice, they're both fine people but we need somebody who's experienced enough to navigate the shit we're in.