So, I suppose they are trying to appease more conservative voters in their districts who've been fed truckloads of RW propaganda about Pelosi. Thus, in essence, the RW is manipulating this process.

I think some of the newbs on the Left are being bamboozled by this group as well.

It is appalling.

I hate to put it like that. But folks just post responses that are angry - and/or disproportionate to the answer.

I liked Pelosi for years. But it's clear to me that it's time for a change. I don't know why it's hard for folks to acknowledge that there are differences in the party (not you!) --but folks here never dialogue about stuff like this. Such strong opinions - always.

IDK. I like the board, I get links and info here. But it's not the place for sharing ideas and honest disagreements.

It is conducive to strong opinions.

forward and taking time to view the manipulations in play-- is just insane. It is that which will rapidly turn our opportunities from this hard fought midterm race into failure.

Please explain what change you are expecting? I can guarantee that the Five Guys behind this revolt are not interested in the change you are looking for.

The bright eyed successful and hopeful progressives that have newly won hard-fought battles to make it to the House against the odds, will find they have been sorely mislead by these men-- when an experienced WOMAN who has led the way would have pushed for their progressive policies.

I don't want to write anything because it will just get lost. I respect that you asked a question - and if it were another board, and another kind of environment - I'd sort of talk about what I see and why.

I guess my comment was more that the OP's (perhaps not this one) really aren't looking for dialogue. So, only supporters jump in, afterwards. Or folks that want to practice political sparring.

who knows the ropes and wants more change: Nancy Pelosi is that someone. We need her for at least this next two years.

so many people who think Nancy did an excellent job in her part to make the Blue Wave Happen.

Link to tweet

It's time for a change? Why? What is the rationale behind changing from one of the most effective Speakers of the House in the last 40 years? Differences in the party? What differences? 17 people are on the record against Pelosi. That is 17 out of 230 Democratic House members. 14 of the 17 are more conservative than the average Democratic House Rep. The new incoming Reps don't even know what it takes to be the Speaker or what the job entails.

What are your reasons for wanting to change?

When low-posters come in all at once and say the same exact thing, I don't automatically think they're the enemy.

But I do automatically think they're the Trial Balloon Brigade.

And as such, I really want to know what the fuck they mean.

So far, "fresh face" means "not Pelosi."

And none of them can say what "new ideas" means.

So what the fuck, Trial Ballooners? What the hell are you talking about?

People say that they can't have a discussion on this board. I will stipulate that there are people on the forum who react strongly and can be dismissive because they have seen situations and have been through things. I always try to have a discussion. However, if you can't come up with decent reasons to back up your argument then you need to do some soul searching.

Fresh face, new blood, new ideas are all nebulous terms that are just signs of malcontent with no direction as to where to go.

Beyond 2022. She only held it for two terms last time.

That was Debbie Wasserman Schultz's job.

She became Speaker in 2006 due to Iraq and Katrina - and four years later the Democratic House membership was wiped out to pre-Great Depression levels. In the six years after that, we net gained exactly ONE seat. We won the majority again in 2018 - but that was solely due to Donald Trump. There is no evidence that she can hold a House majority under less than the most favorable circumstances imaginable - in contrast to several of her predecessors who managed to hold the House under VERY unfavorable circumstances like John McCormick holding the House during the height of the Vietnam War; Carl Albert holding the House when McGovern lost a 49 state landslide; Tip O'Neil holding the House during the height of Reagan's popularity (including Mondale losing a 49 state landslide).

I fully expect Pelosi to become Speaker again, but frankly many are fearful that we're going to wind up with 2010 part II.

work on mentoring someone to eventually take over, but for now, just the fact that she pisses off the Republicans makes me happy.

Pelosi can stick around and be her mentor instead.

give it up and let someone else take the reins. (Don't have a link, but I did read that.)

I think she deserves the moment of victory and, although I do want to see some younger people in leadership, she's really good at rounding up the votes and keeping her caucus in line.

As long she follows up with her stated plans.

I really don't get that.