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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeth Moulton will vote against Pelosi even if the risk is a Republican speaker
https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/11/14/seth-moulton-nancy-pelosi-house-speaker'Would Moulton himself actually decline to back Pelosi if she made it to a floor vote, at the risk of allowing a Republican to be elected House speaker? Matt Corridoni, a spokesman for Moulton, said the congressman would be voting no on the floor regardless.'
Hey AOC - this is a blue district in MA and you're welcome to help primary this asshole.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)lol
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They all know his history with Pelosi, his enmity, that he's ambitious and getting a lot of free national exposure, and that he'll end up being bought off.
Most important is probably not arousing dislike and contempt but rather his soaring ambition. He could never be elected president, probably not even make it to the first debate, if he allied with Republicans to oust replace our most effective and powerful leader (the "architect of the ACA" and a woman in the "year of the woman" ) with a weak speaker satisfying to the Republicans.
This conversationreported here for the first timeis precisely the type of talk thats currently causing disgusted eye-rolling among significantly more tenured Democrats in Massachusetts and Washington. They dismiss Moulton, albeit never for attribution, as gratingly ambitious, a grandstanding backbencher who has advocated for the ouster of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to make way for new, younger standard-bearerslike himself. They see Moultons message of country over party as not so much admirable as annoying. Its the supercilious, sanctimonious Oh, golly gee, one longtime political observer of his district said of Moultons assertions of selflessness. Some of the opinions on Capitol Hill are even more scathing. I dont think Ive seen a more opportunistic, duplicitous person serving in the House, said a senior Democratic aide, blasting Moulton as somebody who talks bigger than he plays and who pillories Pelosi while almost always voting the same way. He doesnt do anything around here, the aide said. Other members who are more supportive are reluctant to say so publiclycautious about being seen as giving him a bear hug, as one Hill staffer put it, while hes knifing the leader.
Slate: But as I watch him awkwardly work this heartland crowd, I cant help but wonder if hes a candidate custom-built for a different era: a Harvard-bred white guy who thinks he deserves to be in charge, at a moment when neither partys in the market for one of those. ... When I asked Moulton if the race and gender of a politician matter to Democratic voters, he said, No, their values matter. Were a party that doesnt discriminate, not a party that does.
Hed barely wet his feet in D.C. before calling for Nancy Pelosis head and demanding younger party leadership. Hes generally worn his ambition on his preppy, gingham sleeve in a manner so grating that Politico found anonymous sources happy to call him sanctimonious, supercilious, and duplicitous. Since he entered Congress in 2014, Moulton hasnt made much of a legislative mark but has devoted an inordinate hunk of energyand public commentto hating on his Democratic colleagues. ...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/10/who-is-seth-moulton-for.html
For those who dislike him but want to know the good part of his resume, this should be a satisfying article. The author clearly doesn't trust the picture he's trying to project and also clearly believes we're all eventually going to be asked to vote for him. I'm emphatically not in the group he's positioned himself to appeal to by trying to take down the one woman in America's top political leadership.
spanone
(135,880 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)have been told that their votes will be irrelevant so they can be hometown heroes without screwing things up?
And how mny are just screwed up?
Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)that ran as a Dem. I don't know him at all, but who would sabotage their own party?
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)If we can start a GoFundMe account for a Dem to oppose GOPer Susan Collins, then we can start one to primary DINO Seth Moulton.
BTW, does anyone really believe Moulton supports Fudge for Speaker and isn't just angling for the job himself? Same goes for Tim Ryan.
seaglass
(8,173 posts)Townhall tonight and a protest is planned - I'm interested in seeing how many show up.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)`Hope all this reminds Moulton which party he represents.
Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)R's play the long game.
2naSalit
(86,796 posts)Up here in small red state there was a lot of chatter about Rs registering as Ds to get elected then vote against everything while in office. the Gianfote, Daines, Zinke crowd, that is. It's not a stretch to imagine that some got in. They need to be monitored just to see what they are all about. We don't need closeted Nunes types lurking in the light.
dameatball
(7,400 posts)completely screwing up what a lot of American Democrats worked for. Pelosi probably won'tstay on for many more years, but risking handing the office to a Republican is a slap in the face.
seaglass
(8,173 posts)step down in 2020 if a Dem is elected.
safeinOhio
(32,724 posts)Toady for trump.
ret5hd
(20,522 posts)Celerity
(43,534 posts)make a Rethug speaker a reality? Wouldn't if be ironic if Pelosi completely takes AOC under her wings and uses her and other progressives to clean house against the DINOS who are in safe Blue districts! Lololol
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)from her caucus and fill it with progressives.
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)strips him of all committee positions and never says his name again.
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)Backstabbing.
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)to destroy his. She's been around since Kennedy and knows her chops. I'm sorry she is having to work so hard to just do her job.
OnDoutside
(19,972 posts)hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)I wonder how his constituents feel about that.
what a fucking moron.
Green Line
(1,123 posts)Calling his office right now, will call every day until the vote, who the hell is he to be doing this.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)email telling him what I think about this! He needs to back off!
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)speaker. I mean if thats the case why is he a member of our party?
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)Demsrule86
(68,689 posts)to enable Republicans...Seth's needs to face a primary.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)SM could get the same national recognition from 'con media, that AOC got for the Dem far left wing of the anti's.