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Whatever you call the file Julian Assange has threatened to release if he's imprisoned or dies or WikiLeaks is destroyed, it's impossible to stop.
"It's all tech talk to say, 'I have in my hand a button and if I press it or I order my friends to press it, it will go off,'" said Hemu Nigam, who has worked in computer security for more than two decades, in the government and private sector.
There's a reason Assange specifically announced -- on the Web -- that there is a 256-bit key encryption code that only a few trusted associates know that will unleash the contents of the 1.4 gigabyte-size file.
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http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-08/us/wikileaks.poison.pill_1_julian-assange-wikileaks-key-encryption?_s=PM:US
Has this ever been activated?
Could it be that the minute he's arrested, he will be tortured until he reveal its contents and/or rats out his associates?
Could get interesting.....
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)According to him it will only be released if he is killed or imprisoned.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)The US government will not rest until they know what he knows AND that document is defused.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Evidence that dick cheney* new more about the events about to transpire on 9/11/01 than did just about anyone else, including most of the highjackers? Evidence that during cheney's* secret energy meetings, it was revealed that the US would be invading Iraq over a year before the invasion?
Just speculation....
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)according to reports.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Again: Hit that button, Bay-bee!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)Yoko Ono's recipe for Chicken Vindaloo.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)formercia
(18,479 posts)Remember those days, when a 40 Gig hard drive was the latest?
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I still have sheets of the "16" apple stickers you put on the 5 1/4" floppies. It was NOT an easy upgrade. The first "hard drive" I installed was a 5MB Corvus networked drive (required a dedicated Apple II as the server) that weighed about 40 lbs. It used a parallel cable. I was amazed when they came out with (forget the brand, started with an "N" 30MB drive that was the size of a Honda (just kidding, it was about the size of a microwave oven). Well, fuck. So is a Honda.
Still, I've got a bank of drives, at least 20 in sight, that are between 800GB and 1.5TB in size. Things change with times. And I have an AOL 2.0 floppy on the floor (fucking cats) that I'm going to sell on eBay. Yes, I can still read floppies (USB drive is easiest, but I've got 386 machines that still work). I use a lot of disk space. I keep at least two copies of everything. I know what happens when a drive fails and I've been there with clients on redundant servers. I stayed up all night one time typing in 35 digit codes to reconstruct a storage array because the fuckhead who took out the drive ALSO took out the hot-swap drive. I got it back on-line by morning. It only took ten hours. Then I passed out on the floor under my desk.
I have a Technics turntable and a LaserDisc player and we're going to finish watching "Never Say Never Again" on the LaserDisc player tonight. I'm an old-school geek. I can't change that and have no intention of it. That's what I know. I will NOT apologize for that. And hey, as for a 40GB hard drive, that's recent shit.
On Edit: 150K was a single-sided disk. IBM came out with "TWO-K DISKS" that were really only 360K, but to their credit, they were double-sided.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)And the storage wasn't contiguous - it was like having (10 or was it 20) floppies ready for "instant" access.
Ahhh...you young whipper snappers... I had to walk 16 miles....
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I think the 33 MB drive was a, what, Nestar? I don't remember, but it weighed about 70 lbs and had six platters.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)C was a hard sell back then. People would look at the object code produced and groan.
Ah well, back to 2012..... Thanks for the memories.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)It's a lot more efficient and easier to read if you do hex.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)by a sufficiently stupid way of solving a problem" - Mary Shaw (the person who really should have received Herbert Simon's Nobel Prize).
hunter
(38,326 posts)... but I'm a little afraid to turn the machine on.
Too many bad experiences with old electrolytic capacitors going firecracker on me.
If I really had to read an 8 inch floppy (nobody's asked me to do that for a long time...) I'd probably rebuild the machine first.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Depending on what's inside, it could be very damaging so some peoples' interests.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Robb
(39,665 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)That was one of the funniest proto-memes out there. Classic shit.
ETA: Sorry, I read that as "tiger hand." Feel free to ignore, or get out your pen missile.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)April 2, 2003
Download (399.59 KB)
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/text-usa-patriot-act
The POTUS has complete control!
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Frankly, that would surprise me. Suppose they can and that that file contains dynamite.
Remember Assange just wanted to be sure that other hackers couldn't get in.
So, put yourself in the government's shoes. What's your move?
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)You would have to get your hands on Assange, make him talk, all the while making his "associates" think he's free.
Make a great movie, huh?
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)of Graphics cards that can do hundreds of parallel processing calculation per second, I'd imagine that you could eventually brute force it. On a CPU it would take forever, but on multiple graphics cards, the time would be quite smaller. Still, you are probably talking about years, if not decades.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Encryption makes it hard to read the data, but not impossible. You need lots and lots and lots and lots of attempts to guess the key. Theoretically, millions of years of attempts for such a brute-force attack.
When people talk about a particular encryption being "broken", they mean you can decrypt the message significantly faster than a brute-force attack.
One problem in encryption is the speed at which you can make those guesses. As computers get faster, those brute-force attacks take less and less time. AES-128 isn't really considered super-secure anymore, because the 128-bit key can be brute-forced in a relatively short time because computers are much faster now.
Another problem is decrypting the data is extremely parallelizable - If you use two computers, it will take roughly 1/2 the time because each machine can simultaneously try different keys. 4 computers, roughly 1/4 the time. And so on.
The NSA has very fast computers. And a common joke is that the NSA measures computing power in acres. Meaning they have a LOT of very fast computers. And further, there's no reason they have to use a "general purpose" computer like on our desktops. They can easily afford specialized computers built to brute force AES even faster.
So while it would take us a billion years to crack the "insurance" file, I would not be surprised to learn the NSA has decrypted it.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Whatever may be in it is likely so dated as to be useless, IMO.
BUT, it is sitting in my external hard drive in case the key is ever released. Not that I would likely ever bother to go through all of that minutia, but meh.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)It might eat the internet all up.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)CabCurious
(954 posts)Bragi
(7,650 posts)How exactly does using as-yet unreleased sensitive data as a bargaining chip show that someone is "petty and unprincipled"? Seems to me like a straight-forward attempt at self-protection. - B
panader0
(25,816 posts)Don't you want to know what's in those files? Democracy shouldn't keep deep dark secrets from the people.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Exactly. It's all about him. If it's so important, release it now. That and the HIV test refusal unless he gets something he wants prove it entirely. Let him stay stuck in that embassy forever - it's worse than prison. And it's self imposed.
snot
(10,538 posts)Of course, if someone could safely leak him a new one . . .
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)However, there is another 65GB file posted in 2012 that has not been compromised. Yet.