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If the U.S gets its hands on Assange, what will they charge him with? (Original Post) cali Aug 2012 OP
Publishing the Truth or Upholding the First Amendment :sarcasm: - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #1
They won't charge him with anything... HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #2
Cheney wants to waterboard him. panader0 Aug 2012 #3
He may get sloppy seconds kenny blankenship Aug 2012 #10
Obviously not Cheney. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #11
Boom! hifiguy Aug 2012 #12
Enemy combatant. Or a terrorism charge riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #4
It's secret, compartmentalized information, available only on a need-to-know basis. Octafish Aug 2012 #5
He could be declared an enemy commbant and sent off to Gitmo. CK_John Aug 2012 #6
"At war" my ass. hifiguy Aug 2012 #13
Charge him with? 120 volts I should think. kenny blankenship Aug 2012 #7
they'll just put him on a small airplane datasuspect Aug 2012 #8
Nothing. If we wanted him, we'd have taken him by now. Robb Aug 2012 #9
Didn't read the link, did you Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #14
oh, that's just more paranoid nutjobbery frylock Aug 2012 #17
Stupid Australians. Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #19
Australian Authorities Seem to Disagree, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #15
Kick. Luminous Animal Aug 2012 #16
Frankly, I don't think he will be charged with anything. They will Cleita Aug 2012 #18
We have not yet restored habeas corpus. No charges required at this time. Overseas Aug 2012 #20
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. They won't charge him with anything...
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:25 AM
Aug 2012

which is why they haven't filed an extradition request. There are no charges that the US can file that will withstand public scrutiny, or higher court appeals. Nor would US release "evidence", citing national security. That means the US wants to get their hands on him outside the legal process, and just detain him without access to US courts.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. Obviously not Cheney.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:50 AM
Aug 2012

Others in intelligence or administration? Perhaps. Depends on if they believe in exisistence of document file, and fear of whats on it.
Obviously, US would like to shut Assange up, and Wikileaks down. Since there is thin legal grounds to do so, US is trying to accomplish this by extralegal means... which by definition could be indefinate detention, torture, lack of due process, etc.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. Boom!
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:51 AM
Aug 2012

The Swedes would turn him over to the CIA or military intelligence immediately. He would never be seen alive again.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. It's secret, compartmentalized information, available only on a need-to-know basis.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:36 AM
Aug 2012

It's something to do with somthing in the USA PATRIOT Act that not even sitting U.S. Senators can tell us about. Really, it protects democracy.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
6. He could be declared an enemy commbant and sent off to Gitmo.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:36 AM
Aug 2012

The US will have Assange in jail for the next 30 yrs.

We are at war and we may not like it but legal rights are different.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
7. Charge him with? 120 volts I should think.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:39 AM
Aug 2012

Aussies use 240v/50Hz, but 120 applied to the testicles achieves remarkable results.

Yank ingenuity.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
8. they'll just put him on a small airplane
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:42 AM
Aug 2012

or disappear him altogether.

or make him a terrorist, then it will be legal to execute him without a trial.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
9. Nothing. If we wanted him, we'd have taken him by now.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:43 AM
Aug 2012

Inside or outside the legal system. He's been on the grid for nearly two years.

The rest is paranoid ramblings or his deliberate attempt to avoid prosecution in Sweden.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
14. Didn't read the link, did you
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:56 AM
Aug 2012
However, the Australian embassy in Washington reported in February that “the US investigation into possible criminal conduct by Mr Assange has been ongoing for more than a year”.

The embassy identified a wide range of criminal charges the US could bring against Assange, including espionage, conspiracy, unlawful access to classified information and computer fraud.

Australian diplomats expect that any charges against Assange would be carefully and narrowly drawn in an effort to avoid conflict with the First Amendment free speech provisions of the US Constitution.

The released diplomatic cables also show that the Australian government considers the prospect of extradition sufficiently likely that, on direction from Canberra, Mr Beazley sought high level US advice on “the direction and likely outcome of the investigation” and “reiterated our request for early advice of any decision to indict or seek extradition of Mr Assange”.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/us-intends-to-chase-assange-cables-show-20120817-24e1l.html#ixzz23oraiPOV

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
15. Australian Authorities Seem to Disagree, Sir
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:58 AM
Aug 2012

From the article linked to above:

However, the Australian embassy in Washington reported in February that "the US investigation into possible criminal conduct by Mr Assange has been ongoing for more than a year".

The embassy noted media reports that a US federal grand jury had been empanelled in Alexandria, Virginia, to pursue the WikiLeaks case and that US government officials "cannot lawfully confirm to us the existence of the grand jury".

Despite this, and apparently on the basis of still classified off-the-record discussions with US officials and private legal experts, the embassy reported the existence of the grand jury as a matter of fact. It identified a wide range of criminal charges the US could bring against Assange, including espionage, conspiracy, unlawful access to classified information and computer fraud.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/us-in-pursuit-of-assange-cables-reveal-20120817-24e8u.html#ixzz23orz2gHw

My guess would be further action awaits the outcome of Mr. Manning's trial....

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
18. Frankly, I don't think he will be charged with anything. They will
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:19 PM
Aug 2012

just hold him someplace like Gitmo, torture him when it suits them, and then in a few years release and send him back to Australia a broken man when no one is looking. They really don't have anything they can charge him with. He can't be charged with treason because he's not a US citizen. What country is he committing espionage or conspiracy for? He's not releasing or selling secrets to another hostile country but just putting stuff up on his own website. I don't believe they can really put him on trial because it will only shine a light on what goes on behind the scenes at our State Department and the Pentagon.

He knows what his fate is, which is why he is fighting so hard.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
20. We have not yet restored habeas corpus. No charges required at this time.
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:24 PM
Aug 2012

I still find it hard to acknowledge that the US has allowed indefinite detention since the Bush Gang era.

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