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3catwoman3

(24,032 posts)
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:05 PM Dec 2018

Doing the math on GHWB's career.

Much is being made of a “lifetime of public service.” Director of the CIA. Ambassador to China. Ambassador to the UN. House of Representatives. Sounds really impressive.

I remember, during the Reagan-Bush campaign, noticing that he didn’t seem to have spent very long in any of those positions. So, just now, just for fun, I looked up the details in one of the on-line bios:

CIA - 11.5 months
China - 15 months
RNC chair - 20 months
UN ambassador - 10 months
House of Representatives - 4 years (48 months)

That adds up to a grand total of 104 months = 8.66666667 years of public service before becoming VP.

5 jobs in 10 years. The word dilettante comes to mind.

He spent 19 yrs as a TX oilman.

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Doing the math on GHWB's career. (Original Post) 3catwoman3 Dec 2018 OP
Chair of a political party is not public service Beakybird Dec 2018 #1
Happy to do so. 3catwoman3 Dec 2018 #4
interesting post; thanks! diva77 Dec 2018 #2
You are forgetting 4 years in World War II Jarqui Dec 2018 #3
Not forgotten. I chose to leave those out as I was regarding military service as... 3catwoman3 Dec 2018 #6
When it comes to someone serving as commander in chief Jarqui Dec 2018 #7
His service on the CIA was actually a well thought out move by Cheney grantcart Dec 2018 #5

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
1. Chair of a political party is not public service
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:19 PM
Dec 2018

That's a completely partisan job - especially when the only ideal is making the rich richer. So subtract that.

3catwoman3

(24,032 posts)
4. Happy to do so.
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:35 PM
Dec 2018

You are quite right, of course. I debated about that one, and included it as it was quasi-governmental.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
3. You are forgetting 4 years in World War II
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:28 PM
Dec 2018

4 years in House
2 years ambassador to UN
1.75 years chairman of RNC
1.25 years head liaison in China
1 year director CIA
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14 years public service before White House

12 more as VP and President

And he did more public service as a past President from age 69 to age 94

* I regard chair of RNC as a form of public service for a guy who could have gone back to the oil business and made millions.

3catwoman3

(24,032 posts)
6. Not forgotten. I chose to leave those out as I was regarding military service as...
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:38 PM
Dec 2018

...distinct from political office/appointments.

I was in the Air Force for 4 years of active duty, and 8 years in the serves. That time, in no way, would have made me feel qualified to run for office.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
7. When it comes to someone serving as commander in chief
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:54 PM
Dec 2018

of all the US military forces, I think military service is very relevant towards a person becoming qualified to doing the job.

It strikes me a little like a captain using the experience of being a sailor before taking over as captain of a ship.

I do not see it as a must-have requirement but I do see it as very useful experience to do the job. If I had two identical candidates and one had 4 years of military service like Bush did and the other did not, it is a no brainer - I take the candidate with the military experience.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
5. His service on the CIA was actually a well thought out move by Cheney
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 11:36 PM
Dec 2018

To eliminate him as a potential rival for Presidential nominee in the future thinking that no one who served as CIA chief could run.

Apparently was a very good headcofcthe CIA for the long term professionals who felt decimated after the Church hearings.

Apparently he had frequent coffee hours at the end of the day and invited both high and low level staff to come and asked each of them what they did.

He also wrote frequent notes of thanks and support and had a dramatic impact on moral.

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