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A great look at the Sopranos as it foreshadows today's political and social scene.
<The Sopranos shows how we got to where we are now, a country stewing in its own stale juices.>
<Coming at the ragged end of the Bill Clinton era and sticking around through most of the Bush presidency, The Sopranos records and preserves the cusp of the pre-9/11, post-9/11 atmospheric shift, when national confidence had the wind knocked out of it and terrorism superseded organized crime as the chief preoccupation of the feds, the red needle on the fear gauge.
It pulls back the tarp of the underlying malaise afflicting white America, a malaise compounded of postwar nostalgia, creeping age, waning virility and vital purpose, and a nagging belatedness (Tony himself: Lately, Im getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is over). The gong of decline is tolled at the outset. The rackets arent bringing in the money they used to, the minorities are taking over . . . Why cant things be the way they used to be when young snots respected their elders, made men didnt cut deals and rat out associates but took the full rap, and they played Jerry Vale on the radio?>
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/11/the-sopranos-white-americas-cultural-shift
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Ironic as all heck,we had this discussion going the same direction three weeks with our Niece. Thirty years age difference,but her observations were spot on much like this story.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)byronius
(7,400 posts)The show made it clear that they were all incompetent losers, constantly, overtly. There was zero glorification. Every character was depicted as ugly and small inside, especially the normal citizens who helped them for cash.
Not to mention the end -- in which the message was 'now you've killed your entire family, great job'.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)where there is actually a TV show called "Growing up Gotti."
byronius
(7,400 posts)The thirties, for instance. Bonnie and Clyde were heroes to the poor farmers who lost their land to the banks.
Goes back to Robin Hood.
But the reality is always a little more psychopathic.
misanthrope
(7,422 posts)When it was still airing, I would watch each each episode twice on the night it aired and then I've gone through it at least two more times in the decade since it ended. I still believe it's the best series I've ever seen on television. Everything about it -- cinematography, writing, direction, production values, especially the acting -- is unmatched as a whole.
Anyone who believes it glamorizes crime or the mob, or specifically defames Italian-Americans has never watched it all the way through. It's a masterpiece of a show with numerous psychological and sociological layers.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,210 posts)I just don't find a bunch of thugs all that interesting.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)Celerity
(43,485 posts)Coventina
(27,169 posts)I don't need TV that puts me in a bad mood.
So, I bailed out when Adrianna (?) was strong-armed into being a snitch.
That was the last straw for me.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Italians have historically not been considered "white" in America. They were oppressed, lynched, interned during WWII, and laws were passed in this country to prohibit italian and Greek immigration
Roman Catholic italian Americans are not the epitome of whiteness. The author of that article is clueless.