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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:25 PM Dec 2018

Iraq/WMDs v Trump/Russia

I don’t know about anyone else but I seem to have had a better ability to keep track of events and dates and places and people and attributions and .... much more easily during the Iraq War than I can now.

This situation today is like no other we’ve ever had. Seems every day some new piece is uncovered and a new name or two or a new place or concept or quote.

I’m starting Ch 11 in Proof of Collusion and I feel I’m going to have re-read this two more times (and couple it with the Audiobook at the same time)

This is criminality on such a widespread scale yet done by the simplest of minds.

Mueller’s team must have dozens upon dozens of flowcharts and corkboards to track all this visually.


a sampling from the book:

Meanwhile, a cadre of aides, associates, and family members—including Jared Kushner, Erik Prince, Michael Flynn, Tom Barrack, Rick Gates, and Bud McFarlane—are playing a dangerous political game.

The game involves seven nations (the United States, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Syria, Iran, and Russia) and seven seemingly unrelated subjects: Kushner’s worsening money troubles; Saudi-Qatari tensions; the Saudis’ desire for nuclear power and, eventually, the right to build a nuclear weapon; the Emiratis’ own nuclear ambitions; Saudi and Emirati hostility toward Iran, and particularly Iranian involvement in the war in Syria; Russian construction firms’ opposition to U.S. sanctions, which are hindering them from making tens of billions of dollars building new nuclear reactors in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates; and Russian actions relative to the war in Syria, which are ostensibly being coordinated with Russia’s ally, Iran. These issues engage parties that don’t at first appear connected to one another, but at least part of their correlation involves the United States dropping sanctions against the Kremlin in exchange for the promise of a big financial windfall for Trump and his relatives.

Abramson, Seth. Proof of Collusion: How Trump Betrayed America . Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.
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Iraq/WMDs v Trump/Russia (Original Post) Roland99 Dec 2018 OP
"It's a big f'ing deal" SHRED Dec 2018 #1
prime example. new info I never knew before. Many probably didn't Roland99 Dec 2018 #2
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