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Michael Avenatti takes on a new case (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2018 OP
Here we go again. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #1
It's tough to be an activist who wants recognition for a cause when little recognition is given. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #2
He doesn't seem to have much trouble getting recognition for himself. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #3
Here's the really goofy aspect of this one jberryhill Dec 2018 #11
There are probably hundreds of asylum-seekers who desperately need legal representation The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #12
They do when public opinion is an element of the defense. brooklynite Dec 2018 #6
Oh, I want to hear this one jberryhill Dec 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author OilemFirchen Dec 2018 #8
Public opinion is not an element of a legal defense to misdemeanor trespassing, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #13
Tweet unavailable/deleted. n/t Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #4
Hype Ciaphas Cain Dec 2018 #5
The Gofundme is here jberryhill Dec 2018 #9
Lol. cwydro Dec 2018 #10

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
1. Here we go again.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 04:28 PM
Dec 2018

Most lawyers don't publish announcements when they take on the representation of a client, even a client who's made the news. And he's not even lead counsel for this one. At least we can be thankful that this tiresome ambulance-chaser has decided not to run for president, but his fifteen minutes of fame are more than used up.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
3. He doesn't seem to have much trouble getting recognition for himself.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 04:42 PM
Dec 2018

If he were a genuinely-committed activist he'd pick a cause and work on it without tooting his own horn instead of pouncing on every high-profile case he can get in on, regardless of the underlying reason for it. Or he'd volunteer for an organization like the ACLU or the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. Here's the really goofy aspect of this one
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 07:00 PM
Dec 2018

She's facing three misdemeanor counts arising from scaling the Statue of Liberty to protest immigration policy. Who knew he was such a wiz at trespassing, that he'll need pro hac vice admission in New York for this highly unusual civil disobedience type of case?

Where this gets weird is that, hey, he could be doing something to, you know, actually fight the underlying policy like the scores of attorneys who are doing just that. A while back he claimed that he was representing whistleblowers in ICE and among their contractors, and he had also claimed to have taken on 50 immigration clients also in jurisdictions where he is not licensed; and the only thing that ever came of it is him offering to privately deport one child back to Guatemala or wherever, instead of representing him in an asylum application.

I'm sure the court which is handling her case will be thrilled at his arrival.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
12. There are probably hundreds of asylum-seekers who desperately need legal representation
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 07:10 PM
Dec 2018

and would welcome his help - but he'd have to go down to the border and deal with a bunch of untidy, destitute foreigners. He might get dust on his Gucci loafers. He'll have to fly commercial with hoi polloi, though, because his ex just got his airplane and his Ferrari.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Oh, I want to hear this one
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 06:09 PM
Dec 2018

Please explain for what charge is "public opinion" an element of any defense whatsoever?

She's charged with three misdemeanors: disorderly conduct, trespassing and interference with government agency functions.

So, the defense is "It's legal to climb the Statue of Liberty if people think you ought to be able to?" Is that where "public opinion" comes in?

The way that civil disobedience works is that the person engaging in the civil disobedience is willing to endure the consequences as a demonstration of their moral resolve.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #7)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
13. Public opinion is not an element of a legal defense to misdemeanor trespassing,
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 07:13 PM
Dec 2018

no matter what the reason for the charge, and nobody needs more than one lawyer to handle this simple case. She will probably have to pay a fine; she is not in danger of going to prison; and she doesn't need Clarence Darrow (or Michael Avenatti).

Ciaphas Cain

(124 posts)
5. Hype
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 05:30 PM
Dec 2018

Good! I have a good feeling about this.

Michael Avenatti is very good at getting himself on television. Sometimes you need a hype man.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. The Gofundme is here
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 06:22 PM
Dec 2018

She has three misdemeanor charges pending, and needs funding for:

https://www.gofundme.com/PatriciaOkoumou

Right now, I simply need help with basics — rent, food, utilities, and transportation so that I can both manage these new demands and continue my full-time activism.


However, you might consider donating to Avenatti instead, since he has some new expenses:

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20181206/news/312069882

LOS ANGELES -- A Southern California judge has transferred assets including an airplane and a Ferrari from porn actress Stormy Daniels' lawyer Michael Avenatti as part of his divorce, according to court records obtained Thursday.

Orange County Judge Carol Henson on Tuesday ordered some of Avenatti's assets be liquidated and sold for back child and spousal support.

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