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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:01 PM Dec 2018

NY federal prosecutors concluded that the President of the United States committed a felony (page 11




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Just to make it crystal clear, New York federal prosecutors concluded that the President of the United States committed a felony.

New York federal prosecutors conclude and assert that when Michael Cohen committed a campaign finance violation, he "acted in coordination with and at the direction of" Donald Trump (page 11), which means their other evidence is consistent with Cohen.
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NY federal prosecutors concluded that the President of the United States committed a felony (page 11 (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 OP
Wheee!!! Happy day!! hopeforchange2008 Dec 2018 #1
We the people are going to Make America Great Again by jailing the GOP charlatan. olegramps Dec 2018 #41
Addition by subtraction. WheelWalker Dec 2018 #43
Noice! Nice! n/t LuckyCharms Dec 2018 #2
Kick dalton99a Dec 2018 #3
Chuck Rosenberg wasn't quite ready to go there, but almost. triron Dec 2018 #4
CNN said that it shows he DID commit a crime (s). BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #15
but for Pete's sake does it mention Trump by name? lanlady Dec 2018 #5
i hope so Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #6
me too, Hermit! lanlady Dec 2018 #7
No, but there can be no doubt who he's talking about... DonViejo Dec 2018 #27
But see, FN 11 at p24 WheelWalker Dec 2018 #44
Put very bluntly, this is a BIG FUCKING DEAL, this is serious shit going down. George II Dec 2018 #8
republican Individual 1 is a stinking lying traitor to America Achilleaze Dec 2018 #9
Whoa... calimary Dec 2018 #10
The most important question wasn't asked... angrychair Dec 2018 #11
But can't the NY governor (Andrew Cuomo) pardon little donnie? erronis Dec 2018 #12
Can we indict now? superpatriotman Dec 2018 #13
the 24,00 dollar question. Probably the second Kurt V. Dec 2018 #22
Totally waiting for the traitors in the Republican chambers of Congress ooky Dec 2018 #29
Democrats, after January MUST impeach now. The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #14
Don't they need votes in the senate Charlotte Little Dec 2018 #18
They can impeach in the House The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #21
I would love for them to impeach him Charlotte Little Dec 2018 #25
no, it will disgrace a disgraceful Senate Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #34
At this juncture The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #36
I agree. n/t in2herbs Dec 2018 #39
If the GOP in Congress now... duforsure Dec 2018 #16
So can/will Trump be prosecuted and indicted as a co-conspirator? Muskiteer Dec 2018 #17
he won't get off that easily onetexan Dec 2018 #31
Why can't Trump be indicted now if he engaged in criminal activity? Muskiteer Dec 2018 #37
Its the duty of the House to bring articles of impeachment against Trump now. ooky Dec 2018 #32
And? Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #19
Lock him up! Lock 'em all up! Fritz Walter Dec 2018 #20
Trump just tweeted it clears Potus Catherine Vincent Dec 2018 #23
It means he wants his idiot followers to believe, dewsgirl Dec 2018 #30
Extraordinarily damning James48 Dec 2018 #24
Avenatti cilla4progress Dec 2018 #26
You all know he will never have to pay for it in any way. Doreen Dec 2018 #28
And it's okay to appoint Justices to the SCOTUS and the lower courts? djacq Dec 2018 #33
Indict the bastard Racerdog1 Dec 2018 #35
Them's some powerful words!!! Blue Owl Dec 2018 #38
Lock up the orange criminal and traitor & lark Dec 2018 #40
Just do it already! This is so frustrating IronLionZion Dec 2018 #42

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
41. We the people are going to Make America Great Again by jailing the GOP charlatan.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 02:04 PM
Dec 2018

I can only hope that this will destroy the Republican Party that has been transformed into a criminal fascist enterprise.

BigmanPigman

(51,592 posts)
15. CNN said that it shows he DID commit a crime (s).
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:41 PM
Dec 2018


He is implicated directly since it says Cohen did this "at the direction of the Pres of the US". That is it rigjt there!

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
7. me too, Hermit!
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:15 PM
Dec 2018

Someday, somehow I'm just hoping one of these court filings mentions him by name instead of hiding it behind "Individual No 1" or some such legal cover.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
27. No, but there can be no doubt who he's talking about...
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:52 PM
Dec 2018

"Individual 1... was later elected President."

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
44. But see, FN 11 at p24
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 04:29 PM
Dec 2018

"11 Cohen was previously the subject of an FEC complaint for making unlawful contributions to
Donald Trump’s nascent campaign for the 2012 presidency. The complaint was dismissed for jurisdictional
reasons, but it certainly put Cohen on notice of the applicable campaign finance regulations. See In the
Matter of Donald J. Trump, Michael Cohen, et al., MUR 6462 (Sept. 18, 2013)."

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.499666/gov.uscourts.nysd.499666.27.0_2.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1pN0Njz9cTl9bpGE_mmnCNSS7_twycLJKxOJKnQNS_VI6GUazmegJWTb4

calimary

(81,267 posts)
10. Whoa...
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:25 PM
Dec 2018

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

And the donald is rather large. Does "bigly" count, too?

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
13. Can we indict now?
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:40 PM
Dec 2018

Or will this crime be tossed and burned into the stinking dumpster fire along with the rest?

ooky

(8,923 posts)
29. Totally waiting for the traitors in the Republican chambers of Congress
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:02 PM
Dec 2018

to ignore it entirely. Even though Paul Ryan should be asking for the articles of impeachment now.

There is no hiding from it anymore.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
14. Democrats, after January MUST impeach now.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:41 PM
Dec 2018

We can't play nice anymore. Let the consequences be damned. They have a duty and they can no loner ignore it.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
21. They can impeach in the House
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:03 PM
Dec 2018

of course the Senate will not remove, but impeachment is now an imperative. In the House the potential will be there.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
16. If the GOP in Congress now...
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:50 PM
Dec 2018

..DO nothing and refuse impeachment , they must know they too could be held for obstruction when a President committed a felony , and still refused to do what the law calls for them to do.

 

Muskiteer

(34 posts)
17. So can/will Trump be prosecuted and indicted as a co-conspirator?
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:54 PM
Dec 2018

No. He apparently is above the law according to a Justice Department memo. Supposedly sitting Presidents can't be indicted for any criminal activity according to that memo. It's never been challenged in court.

Does anyone have a link where we can read that Justice Department memo?

And impeachment is certainly better than jail time and huge fines for Trump and his criminal family. If impeachment seems likely Trump will resign and go on to further enrich himself and family members. And he will go on to fund far right neo-fascist groups free from any prison time. No big deal.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
31. he won't get off that easily
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:09 PM
Dec 2018

even if they can't indict him now, the state of NY can - on a slew of other charges, after he's out of office. His kids as well.

 

Muskiteer

(34 posts)
37. Why can't Trump be indicted now if he engaged in criminal activity?
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:27 PM
Dec 2018

I haven't read anything in the Constitution or federal law indicating he can't be indicted.

And does anyone have a link to that alleged Justice Department opinion memo (just an opinion, not a law) stating the belief that a sitting President can't be indicted for criminal activity? Please post a link if you can find it. Thanks.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
32. Its the duty of the House to bring articles of impeachment against Trump now.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:11 PM
Dec 2018

That's the remedy provided by the constitution for this very situation. Impeach him and then give him his trial in the Senate.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
20. Lock him up! Lock 'em all up!
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:00 PM
Dec 2018

No wonder he’s had his Depends in a bunch during the last day or so.

I heard Individual 1 was boarding Marine One and heading out of town earlier today. If he really knew what was coming down, he’d have flown to Moscow or Vladivostok, where he could avoid extradition. (But not Vlad’s own system of justice).

Should have stayed in South America while he was at the G-20 earlier this week... but then, forward-thinking was never one of his strong suits.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
30. It means he wants his idiot followers to believe,
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:09 PM
Dec 2018

this completely cleared him. Because 33% of this country actually believe him and he knows it.

James48

(4,436 posts)
24. Extraordinarily damning
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:17 PM
Dec 2018

That sentencing memo is direct and to the point. Induvidual -1 is Trump. Trump committed felonies. Multiple felonies. And engaged in conspiracy to commit felonies with Cohen. It’s right there in black and white!

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
35. Indict the bastard
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:21 PM
Dec 2018

Let the Magats see what the SCOTUS does with that. With the rigged majority, they can get a first hand look at the rule of law being ignored. Fucking revolution can't start soon enough.

lark

(23,099 posts)
40. Lock up the orange criminal and traitor &
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 11:11 AM
Dec 2018

throw away the key. Include the whole incestuous family along with him and confiscate all their illegally gained assets, including those from the $500 million dollar tax fraud. Oh yes, include Pence, McConnell and Ryan for campaign funding violations and for illegally conspiring against America by plotting with a foreign country etc. etc.

Of course, none of this should be done until Mueller's' full report is out, want to be sure to capture all the criminal & treasonous fraud these rw asses committed and let America see the Anti-American horror that the republican party has become.

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