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applegrove

(118,767 posts) Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:05 PM Dec 2018

Trump Melts Down As Study Reveals His Rallies Hurt Republican Candidates

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/06/trumps-rallies-actually-hurt-republican-senate-candidates.html

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The kicker comes when Abramowitz writes that all of the GOP Senate candidates underperformed, “The bigger picture here is that Republican candidates actually underperformed in the 2018 Senate elections. Given a map in which Democrats were defending 26 seats, including 10 in states carried by Donald Trump in 2016, Republicans might well have picked up six or seven seats in 2018 in a neutral political environment. But the political environment in 2018 was far from neutral, as can be seen in the results of the House and gubernatorial elections where the map did not give Republicans the same sort of advantage. And the fact that the overall political environment was toxic for Republicans in 2018 was due largely to the unpopularity of President Trump. That reality was far more important than the effects of the president’s campaigning for GOP candidates.”

Trump is claiming that his rallies saved the Senate and are the reason why Republicans added two seats in the midterm. The truth is that Trump’s rallies were a drag on the performance of Republicans who had a huge advantage both in geography and the number of seats being defended on the Senate map.

Trump rallies are a bad sign for Republicans in 2020

It is not difficult to see a situation unfolding where Trump is toxic in 2020, and some Republicans don’t want to campaign with him. The problem for Republican candidates when it comes to Trump is that they need his base to turn out and vote, but Trump damages any candidate he touches with non-Trump supporting voters.

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Trump Melts Down As Study Reveals His Rallies Hurt Republican Candidates (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2018 OP

Crybaby Donnie helps illuminate GOPer crime Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #1

Droll understatement empedocles Dec 2018 #2

The question is whether "the base" will respond to LuvLoogie Dec 2018 #3

They're at the point of diminishing returns on their way towards deomgraphic extinction pecosbob Dec 2018 #4

We should be asking ourselves if there really is a "base" FakeNoose Dec 2018 #8

I like! nt SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #9

But Trump's crazy ass gunning toting followers can also hurt Republicans. McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #5

I would guess if a few thousand kgops and/or children were killed, we might erronis Dec 2018 #12

The Media keeps pumping this 40% Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #6

I think you are correct. Whatever number is put out there needs some independent substantiation. erronis Dec 2018 #13

So true. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #14

Agree mountain grammy Dec 2018 #15

Tox-ick Blue Owl Dec 2018 #7

I remember posting that I was wondering if they were doing more harm than good. Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #10

They may not want to campaign with him NastyRiffraff Dec 2018 #11

Donald lost this election even though his name was not physically on the ballot. keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #16

Not feeling at all sorry for the GOP. CrispyQ Dec 2018 #17

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,403 posts)

1. Crybaby Donnie helps illuminate GOPer crime

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:09 PM

Dec 2018

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

2. Droll understatement

Reply to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:10 PM

Dec 2018

LuvLoogie

(7,022 posts)

3. The question is whether "the base" will respond to

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:11 PM

Dec 2018

traditional GOP dog whistles after the clarion call of trump's open bigotry.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)

4. They're at the point of diminishing returns on their way towards deomgraphic extinction

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:18 PM

Dec 2018

For every voter the GOP inspires with all it's hatred and bile, it inspires two to vote Democratic...

FakeNoose

(32,726 posts)

8. We should be asking ourselves if there really is a "base"

Reply to pecosbob (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:30 PM

Dec 2018

Pretty soon it will all be irrelevant.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)

9. I like! nt

Reply to FakeNoose (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:32 PM

Dec 2018

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)

5. But Trump's crazy ass gunning toting followers can also hurt Republicans.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:26 PM

Dec 2018

And by "hurt" I mean kill.

I think that at least half of the GOP's "support" for Trump is actually fear for their personal safety. When a Democrat opposes Trump, that is politics as usual to the MAGA crowd. But when a Republican does it, that is treason!

erronis

(15,328 posts)

12. I would guess if a few thousand kgops and/or children were killed, we might

Reply to McCamy Taylor (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:48 PM

Dec 2018

get some discussion about gun control.

But probably not.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

6. The Media keeps pumping this 40%

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:23 PM

Dec 2018

Trump rating,bullshit to say the least. Best guess is it is the 22% hard core that sticks with this Felon. But,the Media created this Felon and they liked the bottom line profits he produced so breaking up is hard to do.

erronis

(15,328 posts)

13. I think you are correct. Whatever number is put out there needs some independent substantiation.

Reply to Wellstone ruled (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:51 PM

Dec 2018

Not polls with leading questions to known demographics.

It only takes 5-10% of fervid zealots to pollute the media-sphere. The media love a story with colorful people. Sad.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

14. So true.

Reply to erronis (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:59 PM

Dec 2018

As we get a better understanding of the Voter dynamics of this past Election,I do think the Nation is now looking at what the hell is really going on.

mountain grammy

(26,644 posts)

15. Agree

Reply to Wellstone ruled (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 10:19 PM

Dec 2018

Blue Owl

(50,490 posts)

7. Tox-ick

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:27 PM

Dec 2018

n/t

Quixote1818

(28,960 posts)

10. I remember posting that I was wondering if they were doing more harm than good.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:33 PM

Dec 2018

Sure, he was riling up the base but also pissing everyone else off big time and there are more of us.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)

11. They may not want to campaign with him

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:48 PM

Dec 2018

and who can blame them? But they'll damn sure VOTE with him, and for him if he lasts until 2020.

keithbvadu2

(36,887 posts)

16. Donald lost this election even though his name was not physically on the ballot.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Dec 7, 2018, 10:48 PM

Dec 2018

Donald lost this election even though his name was not physically on the ballot.

CrispyQ

(36,502 posts)

17. Not feeling at all sorry for the GOP.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2018, 11:53 AM

Dec 2018

The problem for Republican candidates when it comes to Trump is that they need his base to turn out and vote, but Trump damages any candidate he touches with non-Trump supporting voters.

Tough shit assholes. You courted the bigots & religious whack jobs, now you have to lie in the bed you made. I hope your vile party fractures.

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