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SHRED

(28,136 posts) Sun Dec 9, 2018, 08:52 PM Dec 2018

Accessory to Murder

"A person who learns of the crime after it is committed and helps the criminal to conceal it, or aids the criminal in escaping, or simply fails to report the crime, is known as an "accessory after the fact"

New York Times: Kushner offered advice to Saudi crown prince after journalist's death
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/08/politics/jared-kushner-saudi-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

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Accessory to Murder (Original Post) SHRED Dec 2018 OP

May I ask a question? Cracklin Charlie Dec 2018 #1

His fiance lives in Istanbul csziggy Dec 2018 #2

Thank you. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2018 #5

Individual 1 has a lot to worry about as the holidays approach. ffr Dec 2018 #3

i wonder how that standard applies in an international setting like this......... Takket Dec 2018 #4

Maybe rhe FBI (coordinating with other intelligence agencies) can uncover something more definite. triron Dec 2018 #6

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)

1. May I ask a question?

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 09:58 PM

Dec 2018

It has probably been answered, and I just missed it.

Why did the journalist have to travel to that particular embassy for a marriage license? Why couldn’t he get one in the US? Did someone send him there, knowing what was about to happen?

The whole thing seems like a set-up for murder.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)

2. His fiance lives in Istanbul

Reply to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:08 PM

Dec 2018

At the time of his death, Khashoggi was planning to marry Hatice Cengiz, a 36-year-old PhD candidate at a university in Istanbul. The two had met in May 2018, during a conference in the city. Khashoggi, a Saudi national, visited the Saudi consulate on 2 October to get paperwork that would allow him to marry Cengiz.[94] Khashoggi was married and divorced three times. His first marriage was to Rawia al-Tunisi by whom he had two sons and two daughters.[95]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#Personal_life

He first visited the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 28 September to obtain a document certifying that he had divorced his ex-wife, so that he could marry his Turkish fiancée.

But he was told he would have to return and arranged to come back on 2 October.

"He did not believe that something bad could happen on Turkish soil," his fiancée, Hatice Cengiz, wrote in the Washington Post.

"Jamal was hardly concerned ahead of his second visit."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45812399

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)

5. Thank you.

Reply to csziggy (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:27 PM

Dec 2018

Something evil about this whole thing.

ffr

(22,671 posts)

3. Individual 1 has a lot to worry about as the holidays approach.

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:09 PM

Dec 2018

Takket

(21,587 posts)

4. i wonder how that standard applies in an international setting like this.........

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:23 PM

Dec 2018

i assume you can't charge someone as an accessory, and convict them, unless you first prove somehow that the "murderer" is indeed the murderer.

So since MBS is never going to stand trial here, and obviously not in Saudi Arabia, can you charge Kushner as an accessory without having proven in a court of law the MBS was the murderer? Or can a legal argument be made that MBS called for the murder in his absence in a USA court and kushner advised him how to cover it up?

triron

(22,007 posts)

6. Maybe rhe FBI (coordinating with other intelligence agencies) can uncover something more definite.

Reply to Takket (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:39 AM

Dec 2018

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