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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 10:28 PM Dec 2018

We are former senators. The Senate has long stood in defense of democracy -- and must again.

Letter published in WAPO

Dear Senate colleagues,

As former members of the U.S. Senate, Democrats and Republicans, it is our shared view that we are entering a dangerous period, and we feel an obligation to speak up about serious challenges to the rule of law, the Constitution, our governing institutions and our national security.

We are on the eve of the conclusion of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation and the House’s commencement of investigations of the president and his administration. The likely convergence of these two events will occur at a time when simmering regional conflicts and global power confrontations continue to threaten our security, economy and geopolitical stability.

It is a time, like other critical junctures in our history, when our nation must engage at every level with strategic precision and the hand of both the president and the Senate.

We are at an inflection point in which the foundational principles of our democracy and our national security interests are at stake, and the rule of law and the ability of our institutions to function freely and independently must be upheld.

During our service in the Senate, at times we were allies and at other times opponents, but never enemies. We all took an oath swearing allegiance to the Constitution. Whatever united or divided us, we did not veer from our unwavering and shared commitment to placing our country, democracy and national interest above all else.

At other critical moments in our history, when constitutional crises have threatened our foundations, it has been the Senate that has stood in defense of our democracy. Today is once again such a time.

Regardless of party affiliation, ideological leanings or geography, as former members of this great body, we urge current and future senators to be steadfast and zealous guardians of our democracy by ensuring that partisanship or self-interest not replace national interest.

Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), Bill Bradley (D-N.J.), Richard Bryan (D-Nev.), Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), Max Cleland (D-Ga.), William Cohen (R-Maine), Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Al D’Amato (R-N.Y.), John C. Danforth (R-Mo.), Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), Dennis DeConcini (D-Ariz.), Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.), David Durenberger (R-Minn.), Russ Feingold (D-Wis.), Wyche Fowler (D-Ga.), Bob Graham (D-Fla.), Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Gary Hart (D-Colo.), Bennett Johnston (D-La.), Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), John Kerry (D-Mass.), Paul Kirk (D-Mass.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), Larry Pressler (R-S.D.), David Pryor (D-Ark.), Don Riegle (D-Mich.), Chuck Robb (D-Va.), Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), Jim Sasser (D-Tenn.), Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.), Mark Udall (D-Colo.), John W. Warner (R-Va.), Lowell Weicker (I-Conn.), Tim Wirth (D-Colo.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-are-former-senators-the-senate-has-long-stood-in-defense-of-democracy--and-must-again/2018/12/10/3adfbdea-fca1-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html?utm_term=.93173850fdf0&wpisrc=al_trending_now__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1

Never seen anything like this before.

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We are former senators. The Senate has long stood in defense of democracy -- and must again. (Original Post) boston bean Dec 2018 OP
What? Senator Dole and Senator Dole did not sign. DURHAM D Dec 2018 #1
I don't think the letter was circulated for signatures boston bean Dec 2018 #2
Wow!!! gopiscrap Dec 2018 #3
Fucking Nightmare-Campbell Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #4
This is amazing. honest.abe Dec 2018 #5
Current GOP Senators (Paul, Collins, Grassley, Hatch, etc.) do not give a damn Freethinker65 Dec 2018 #6
Even former GOP Senators with nothing to lose do not give a damn. milestogo Dec 2018 #21
Where's Senator Wide-Stance from Idaho? Beakybird Dec 2018 #7
how about the one who likes diapers and prostitutes JI7 Dec 2018 #34
Could be read as supporting 45. Too fuzzy to help, imho. lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #8
I did not read it that way at all. boston bean Dec 2018 #9
most of them are democrats . you think Russ Feingold and John Kerry would be supporting Trump ? JI7 Dec 2018 #35
A lot of nothing Cartoonist Dec 2018 #10
Well, I think it is significant in this way. boston bean Dec 2018 #13
I agree with you 100%, watoos Dec 2018 #18
Mitch - you listening? Marie Marie Dec 2018 #11
Mitch is worried about what the Russian spy, Butina, watoos Dec 2018 #19
This is remarkable mcar Dec 2018 #12
fewer than 25% are Rs shanny Dec 2018 #14
And.. RainCaster Dec 2018 #15
Before all Rs were batshit crazy like now n/t hibbing Dec 2018 #16
What specific action are they suggesting? Martin Eden Dec 2018 #17
Indictment would be better, watoos Dec 2018 #22
Right. Not specific enough to even make a dent. lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #37
If we know anything, McConnell understands a good bribe. Maybe if someone threw him more money ffr Dec 2018 #20
He got some of that 30 million watoos Dec 2018 #23
Reading that list of Democratic Senators makes me wish we could have most of 'em back again. NBachers Dec 2018 #24
Not many Republicans in there. Party over country for most of them, it seems. nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #25
We have seen stronger words from President Carter RainCaster Dec 2018 #26
K&R!!! burrowowl Dec 2018 #27
What's With All the Repeated Paragraphs?? DoctorJoJo Dec 2018 #28
fixed.. sorry about that boston bean Dec 2018 #30
super vague, way too late in the game letter that will have zero impact AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #29
He was toxic campaigning for the nomination 2016 . Too late to form a meaningful contingent imo lunasun Dec 2018 #31
Just 6 former Republican Senators? Fail. KPN Dec 2018 #32
Wow! Amazing from some Cha Dec 2018 #33
Not really a bipartisan letter. None of the few R's there are influential Republicans Azathoth Dec 2018 #36

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
1. What? Senator Dole and Senator Dole did not sign.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 10:40 PM
Dec 2018

Also, a little surprised that Kay Hagan NC did not sign.

Freethinker65

(10,022 posts)
6. Current GOP Senators (Paul, Collins, Grassley, Hatch, etc.) do not give a damn
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:17 PM
Dec 2018

They will let the country die to protect Trump and their own asses

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)
10. A lot of nothing
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:32 PM
Dec 2018

we urge current and future senators to be steadfast and zealous guardians of our democracy
_

Well whoop de do

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
13. Well, I think it is significant in this way.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:38 PM
Dec 2018

The public is being braced for what is to come. I think it was meant for that more than for the repugs who are magats.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
18. I agree with you 100%,
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:54 PM
Dec 2018

there were 11 Republicans who signed that letter, that's a message to the current Senators.

Every little crack helps, the tide is starting to turn.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
19. Mitch is worried about what the Russian spy, Butina,
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:56 PM
Dec 2018

is going to say about how many rubles the NRA gave to him.

RainCaster

(10,878 posts)
15. And..
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:44 PM
Dec 2018

Like others, I am doubtful that our current senate will even understand what "do the right thing" means. Corruption runs so deep in the GOP that they would go down with Komrade BoneSpurs.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
22. Indictment would be better,
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:59 PM
Dec 2018

impeachment followed by a Pence pardon puts Trump above the law.

Lawrence Tribe was just on Lawrence O'Donnell explaining why the founders felt a sitting president can be indicted.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
20. If we know anything, McConnell understands a good bribe. Maybe if someone threw him more money
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 11:57 PM
Dec 2018

he'd sway back in line with his constitutional duty.

What the heck am I talking about. The guy is just pure evil.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
23. He got some of that 30 million
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 12:03 AM
Dec 2018

that the Russians gave to the NRA. Funny how the NRA only gave Romney 11 million. Funny how they gave Trump/GOP 30 million when they are crying they are going bankrupt.

I hope Butina spills her guts, if she does she will definitely have to go into the witness protection program. Sending her back to Russia would be a death sentence.

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
24. Reading that list of Democratic Senators makes me wish we could have most of 'em back again.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 12:04 AM
Dec 2018

A few exceptions; obvious enough to not be mentioned.

RainCaster

(10,878 posts)
26. We have seen stronger words from President Carter
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 12:50 AM
Dec 2018

This was so wishy-washy. I was disappointed that the wording wasn't more clear. History will judge them.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
31. He was toxic campaigning for the nomination 2016 . Too late to form a meaningful contingent imo
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 01:27 AM
Dec 2018

But better late than never to speak out I guess .
Plus have they checked out the R congress critters because who are they talking to
that is listening ?

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
36. Not really a bipartisan letter. None of the few R's there are influential Republicans
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:35 AM
Dec 2018

Many of them either endorsed a Democrat or were appointed to posts in Democratic administrations, and all of them are marginalized/excommunicated from mainstream Republican politics.

There's no "battle for the soul of the GOP", no influential, respected party figures trying to pull the party out of the lunatic asylum. The GOP is now a lockstep crime syndicate in the service of Donald Trump.

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