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kentuck

(111,097 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:33 PM Dec 2018

Schumer and Pelosi set up?

By Trump?

Did they know beforehand that Trump had requested cameras be on hand? Did they know they were going to "debate" the wall on national TV?

I'm thinking they may have been surprised by the Trump Production? Although, under the circumstances, they seemed to get their points across fairly effectively.

Divisive politics.

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Schumer and Pelosi set up? (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2018 OP
If he did, it backfired in a major way. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #1
I don't think it worked out the way he wanted... kentuck Dec 2018 #6
Yup wryter2000 Dec 2018 #7
No kidding workinclasszero Dec 2018 #10
It always does SoCalNative Dec 2018 #11
I really don't think those two could be really surprised, Hortensis Dec 2018 #2
Trump is all about show and how he will force his will...Of course beachbum bob Dec 2018 #3
Prepare for right-wing incoming articles saying: Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #4
There are people on DU who think that way. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #12
Really? Ugh Shell_Seas Dec 2018 #13
I was being a hyperbolic...but Yes Caliman73 Dec 2018 #15
there have always been certain types that think the caveman act is something to admire JI7 Dec 2018 #16
mexico is going to pay for it ! stonecutter357 Dec 2018 #5
I can't really watch video at work NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #9
Yes. Schumer did. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #14
Bullies force Smart Kids into dumb fights maxsolomon Dec 2018 #8
That is not how bullies get their way. Caliman73 Dec 2018 #17
Well, to quibble a bit, I stood up to a bully and got beat up because I was smaller maxsolomon Dec 2018 #19
If it was a set-up, it back-fired. In a most spectacular way. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #18
They smocked him. spanone Dec 2018 #20

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
1. If he did, it backfired in a major way.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:36 PM
Dec 2018

We have it on record whose fault the shutdown would be, all in his own words.

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
6. I don't think it worked out the way he wanted...
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:38 PM
Dec 2018

It will be interesting to see how the right-wing media handle it...

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. No kidding
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:48 PM
Dec 2018

Asswipe 45 put himself on record as the idiot who will shutdown the govt and destroy the economy.

He might even kickoff a Bush great recession 2, who knows? One is on the way because of his insane trade and tax polices anyway but this on camera confession will cement it to him forever!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. I really don't think those two could be really surprised,
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:37 PM
Dec 2018

except by decency and responsibility of course.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. Trump is all about show and how he will force his will...Of course
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:37 PM
Dec 2018

It was a set up, but schumer and pelosi weren't born yesterday. Trump wanted confrontation. He is going to get his wish.

We see how long GOP in congress goes along.

Shell_Seas

(3,333 posts)
4. Prepare for right-wing incoming articles saying:
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:38 PM
Dec 2018

"Trump destroys Pelosi/Schumer" or some other dumb thing like that. This is the type of things his base wants. FFS, why is this man still in office?

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
12. There are people on DU who think that way.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 03:02 PM
Dec 2018

Some posters are saying the Pelosi and Schumer looked weak, because you know, no one threw a punch or called him a "fucking liar" in front of all the Press and the Nation.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
15. I was being a hyperbolic...but Yes
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 03:07 PM
Dec 2018

There were people on DU who think that Trump came out of that meeting looking better than the Democrats.

Go figure.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
16. there have always been certain types that think the caveman act is something to admire
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 03:10 PM
Dec 2018

I always found that type to come off the weakest and ignorant.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
14. Yes. Schumer did.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 03:05 PM
Dec 2018

He pointed out that it started out the "Mexico was going to pay for it".

I am sure it all depends on the perspective. I thought that Trump was bellicose, but he certainly was the one saying that there was going to be a shut down.

I am sure to his supporters, he looked "tough and manly", but he certainly did not seem like a good negotiator to me.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
8. Bullies force Smart Kids into dumb fights
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:45 PM
Dec 2018

Its how they get their way. Force, threats, public confrontations.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
17. That is not how bullies get their way.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 03:10 PM
Dec 2018

Bullies get their way through intimidation. They do not want to fight because they are actually cowards. If you stand up to them, like Pelosi and Schumer did, they get flustered, like Trump did.

He looked and sounded like a spoiled child next to two grown ups and a mannequin.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
19. Well, to quibble a bit, I stood up to a bully and got beat up because I was smaller
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 03:17 PM
Dec 2018

so they're not always paper tigers. Still remember the asshole's name: Duke Duncanson. But I take your point.

My main point is that he's forced this stupid Wall debate on the nation and dragged us all down into the mud. Conservatives excel at this tactic: making intelligent people argue the obvious over and over, thereby stealing time from more important matters, which is the goal.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. If it was a set-up, it back-fired. In a most spectacular way.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 03:13 PM
Dec 2018

He came across as little more than a small-minded grade-school child throwing a tantrum in front of his teacher and principal. On national television.

"Oh, I've got them right where they want me..."

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