There are more important things, IMO.

I really get tired of Democrats "self harming"...no more bashing

Avoiding entrenchment of leadership was the only reason he gave regarding either candidate. That's a typical issue of concern for eager new members who are junior to decades of people who came before, and which lessens as they earn their own way up importance, or just in valuable seniority through continued service. It was hardly a dissing of Nancy herself.

That vote would not be even a slight problem between them. Of course. In fact, considering Beto's active support for Hillary for president, and the rest of his history, it looks to me like he was carefully avoiding being included with that year's collection of malicious misogynists.

He's a great guy and all, and if he had beat Ted Cruz, it would be like Neo blocking bullets in the Matrix-level political capital right there, but he didn't and so I don't see that star quality, I just don't.

I think he's great. I don't know if he's ready. But I said the same thing about Obama.

I am going to keep an open mind until the Iowa caucuses which are a long time away.

You have to win your hometown if you win anything.

Clinton also lives in NY and Trump won Fl.
The Russians put him in office though.

he's not in Congress now and there's a long way till the Primaries.

Stop speculating on 2020 and concentrate on impeaching the fucker. The nation is in peril NOW.

I don’t need a candidate to be in lockstep with me on every ideological point (or otherwise) for me to support their candidacy.

It's not 2016, and he no longer has a say in the matter.

I cannot, for the life of me, imagine how anyone could possibly believe she should be replaced by Tim Ryan.

Not supporting Pelosi for minority leader is hardly a crime, though one might question the wisdom of supporting Tim Ryan to replace her.

Hell, at this point I'm even a DWS supporter.

All hands on deck, emmereffers.

And I'm about sick of people trying to pit us against each other right now.

I like him plenty. I think he's great.

and thus not my first choice. I think he could have been an excellent Senator from Texas, but I don't want him at the top of the ticket for 2020.

Sick of this shit.

I'm sick of people trying to pick a fight when there isn't anything to fight about.

but he's not my first choice (though so far he is first choice with Move On members).

Keeping an open mind for all but Biden, Sanders, Bloomberg and Gabbard (decision has been made on them).

And geez, I haven't seen your name around here in a while - JPR not work out for you?

I've said that about others who said they wouldn't support her when they were campaigning. I don't think we need to lurch to the right as Beto did at that time. He lost on that effort. That is a good thing. I like Beto a lot. It's not a secret that many Democrats like shiny things when looking at the national ticket. I want to see Beto keep marching forward. I want to see him hold off on a Presidential run though I would not disparage him if he did enter. Overall, he speaks well for us.

Stacey Abrams. She won me over.

If there's anyone that will not put up with Donald's shit - it's her

And I have a lot of respect for her. The list of people who wouldn’t put up with Trumps shit is long.

offshore oil drilling, which is a concern for me because I live in NC. I won't vote for him in the primary.
I'll vote for him if he's our candidate , of course. As President, there's a chance he'll be more liberal on issues since he's not just representing a district in Texas.

I wonder if he's part of No Labels.

As for 2020, it's a long damned way off and I prefer to see how things go organically.

He know whats best for the party.

no worries, he'll still support Nancy in other ways i'm sure.

So did Kyrsten Sinema, Michelle Lujan Grisham, Tim Walz...young talented Dems who left no doubt in part because they felt blocked by our hidebound House seniority rules. IOW, his vote was probably more about changing the rules and creating more opportunities for younger reps like himself than anything else. Anyone who holds that against him isn’t thinking clearly.

about Nancy today?

People can vote for the candidate they believe in at the time. I've cast a couple of Republican votes in my lifetime, but I don't think that makes me a leper.