Literally.

They see Trump's bellicosity and dominance displays as signs of victory, whereas we saw the actual argument and interaction and how Trump was reduced to lying and threatening to shut down the government.

I would never really recommend this but watch Fox News for a couple of hours and you will clearly see that right wingers do indeed operate on entirely different information than the rest of us. Then they call us (the vast majority) the ones who are getting the "false information".

I recommend everyone here try and stomached a few minutes of Fox for the understanding of how crazy the right really is.

I spent a few weeks with my parents recently and, in the morning, they used to put on fox news while we drank coffee. However, they got annoyed with me constantly trash-talking the TV do they got into the habit of switching to the weather channel whenever I was in the room!

Fox news viewers really do operate in a different reality than the rest of us.

Their purpose is to not only indoctrinate those who follow that ideology, but to cast doubt and muddy the waters for the general media which they call "Liberal" if it does not espouse a clearly right wing perspective. This does two things:

1. It inoculates their viewers against other information by creating an aversion to what they consider false information.
2. It creates concern in mainstream outlets that they are being "biased" by not reporting the clearly right wing information that
conservative media outlets put out despite its usual inaccuracy or straight up lying. Mainstream news wants to be "fair" so they end
up reporting the nonsense that comes out of Fox or Drudge or wherever to give perspective.

Study after study on the media show that Fox News viewers are consistently the most uninformed viewers of news media.

that Nancy's feminine voice did not serve her well in that setting, and Trump did his Republican male thing fairly successfully in turning his back on her. Not his wisest move, though, since in strictly physical terms it put him face-to-face with Schumer, who matched him just fine in volume and mass.

Trump got nothing except to display his ignorance and weakness, though. Yes, Trump, your Republican senate won't give you your wall and you need help from Democrats. We got that, many times in fact. You can't have it.

really got under the Trump thin skin right from the get go. Donnie wanted to demean her sic ways to Sunday and it blew up in his orange face.

My guess is,Donnie dumpster fire rehearsed his talking points be for he went on Camera.

others do. What a clever ambush he set up, though. Him facing the cameras in the middle, them side to cameras and unable to leave until he did. I wonder how many times the great deal maker tried to make them an offer they couldn't refuse -- Democratic votes for his wall. Or else (he wouldn't get it)!

If you value belligerence then yes, Trump was effective. It appears that she may have been having some trouble with her voice, but it also looks like there were a much greater number of microphones near Trump and Schumer than on Pelosi's side.

I value rational, fact based debate so to me, her continued point out the reality and the point of actually working toward solutions rather than huffing and puffing

Schumer was very good at the meeting. He struck a good balance between calling Trump out and making sure that he repeated that Democrats already have legislation ready to put on his desk, but "no wall" like Trump envisions.

I also like how Schumer juxtaposed Trump touting how "successful" he's been, but then what an utter emergency the situation on the boarder is. Which is it? It can't be both. Either your doing a good job and don't need the wall or you are doing a horrible job and it is a crisis.

deal and they were too stupid to close it on themselves. I liked Schumer's patient point also but, from my perspective, somehow I doubt Trump got it.

Wow. So being unable to move forward from his simpleminded I-wants, until he finally wears out, is what their private meetings are usually like? Just much longer?

"This guy!"

And they want him to shut down the government.

It’s not hard to understand.

We can't agree that something is a fact, much less agree about causes, effects and solutions.

I've concluded that outnumbering them at the polls is the only hope.

A bunch of toddlers WOULD think that another toddler folding his arms and repeating the same thing over and over and over is somehow "owning" someone. Adults understand that this is just the baby holding his breath until he gets what he wants.

Though I hope it doesn't happen

Those on the far right are gone and have been gone for a long time. They are in a wormhole with half their brain in the 5th dimension.

It’s the 60-65 percent of America that is reasonable that matters.

"When the president left the Oval after Pelosi and Schumer, the number of people saw him storm out of the oval, walked into a room just off the oval office and had in his hand a folder of briefing papers and scattered them out of frustration, threw them across the room and expressed frustration to people that were present, mainly with Chuck Schumer, his old New York sparring buddy he felt got the better of him, goaded him into a remark how Schumer wouldn’t make eye contact with the president, was actually looking back at cameras as he was making comments to the president, but directing comments to the camera. It frustrated the president more than what worried his aides which was comments he made, taking ownership of the shutdown."

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/12/11/trump-had-a-meltdown-after-meeting-with-pelosi-and-schumer.html

Especially throwing stuff. The New COS will have to keep sharp objects out of those tiny hands.