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mucifer

(23,542 posts) Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:13 AM Dec 2018

Can someone explain why the SDNY didn't go after trump decades ago?

I'm just curious.

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Can someone explain why the SDNY didn't go after trump decades ago? (Original Post) mucifer Dec 2018 OP

. jberryhill Dec 2018 #1

1983 - 1989... harumph Dec 2018 #2

Manhattan district attorney agingdem Dec 2018 #9

I agree. Also, I don't know how long Schneiderman was KCDebbie Dec 2018 #5

Yes, it is an excellent question. lark Dec 2018 #3

He made himself a pain in the ass to deal with in that case marylandblue Dec 2018 #10

IIRC, Cyrus Vance Jr had them in his sights until a campaign contribution appeared. n/t CincyDem Dec 2018 #4

Out of public view Jarqui Dec 2018 #6

Paratroopers used to call it the "big sky small bullet theory" Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #7

White collar crimes are usually much more difficult NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #8

Also, with white collar crimes, you just call it an accounting error marylandblue Dec 2018 #12

Here's hoping that the new prosecutors within SDNY will make up for old mistakes MaryMagdaline Dec 2018 #11

Too much scrutiny now for them to let it go marylandblue Dec 2018 #14

if it bleeds it leads....no visible blood.you don't prosecute your social equals dembotoz Dec 2018 #13

There was bribery and other dirty deals no doubt. Threats likely as well. BSdetect Dec 2018 #15

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)

1. .

Reply to mucifer (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:16 AM

Dec 2018

Giuliani served as United States Associate Attorney General from 1981 to 1983. That year he became the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, holding the position until 1989.

harumph

(1,900 posts)

2. 1983 - 1989...

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:20 AM

Dec 2018

What about the 90's?

agingdem

(7,849 posts)

9. Manhattan district attorney

Reply to harumph (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:29 AM

Dec 2018

Cyrus Vance Jr is Trump's kind of guy...google him and see what pops up

KCDebbie

(664 posts)

5. I agree. Also, I don't know how long Schneiderman was

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:23 AM

Dec 2018

AG in NY but I think his sexual history was used to prevent him from pursuing an investigation into Trumps shady business dealings as well...

Who were the NY AGs been for the last 30 years? They're all suspect, as far as I am concerned!

lark

(23,099 posts)

3. Yes, it is an excellent question.

Reply to mucifer (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:22 AM

Dec 2018

i know they went after him for housing discrimination earlier, so why didn't they go after him for taxes at least? Who was he paying off that is no longer there, is what this looks like to me, but that's just a WAG.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)

10. He made himself a pain in the ass to deal with in that case

Reply to lark (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:38 AM

Dec 2018

Dragged out for years. Prosecutors like to go for the easier marks. Also there was a big push on violent organized crime, so Trump's low grade BS was not a priority.

CincyDem

(6,358 posts)

4. IIRC, Cyrus Vance Jr had them in his sights until a campaign contribution appeared. n/t

Reply to mucifer (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:22 AM

Dec 2018

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)

6. Out of public view

Reply to mucifer (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:24 AM

Dec 2018

a few folks probably got paid off whenever they came looking

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,328 posts)

7. Paratroopers used to call it the "big sky small bullet theory"

Reply to mucifer (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:24 AM

Dec 2018

There are only so many prosecutors and lots of crime.

Plus his types of crimes are relatively easy to conceal - on the surface. And prosecutors can’t go past the surface without some trigger like a whistle blower or bank report.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

8. White collar crimes are usually much more difficult

Reply to mucifer (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:27 AM

Dec 2018

to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury. They're often very complex and have many grey areas to them, so prosecutors are hesitate to get involved with all the research and leg work needed.