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sl8

(13,769 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:32 AM Dec 2018

Microsoft Admits Normal Windows 10 Users Are 'Testing' Unstable Updates

From https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/12/12/microsoft-admits-normal-windows-10-users-are-testing-unstable-updates/#45e69b304f6f

Microsoft Admits Normal Windows 10 Users Are 'Testing' Unstable Updates

Dec 12, 2018, 06:49am
Jason Evangelho

Remember when Microsoft's disastrous Windows 10 October Update removed entire user folders like documents and photos? Or the Surface Book 2 owners who had their systems rendered useless from update KB4467682? This happened because users were manually checking for updates and not waiting for the update to get automatically triggered. Why is this a big deal? Because the average Windows user believes that's a safe way to get their system updates as soon as possible. Unfortunately, it's the exact opposite, and Microsoft's Corporate President for Windows has admitted it in a recent blog post.


A Windows 10 user's default expression in 2018.
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First a brief explainer on the release cadence of Windows Updates. Each month Microsoft releases three batches of updates. The second Tuesday of each month (also known as "Patch Tuesday" ) is a quality update that includes security and non-security fixes. Microsoft labels these as "B" releases.

However, Microsoft also issues optional updates during the third and fourth weeks of each month. These are known as "C" and "D" releases. Here's Michael Fortin, Corporate Vice President, Windows, to explain those for you:

"These are preview releases, primarily for commercial customers and advanced users “seeking” updates. These updates have only non-security fixes. The intent of these releases is to provide visibility into, and enable testing of, the non-security fixes that will be included in the next Update Tuesday release. Advanced users can access the “C” and “D” releases by navigating to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update and clicking the “Check for updates” box."


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Microsoft Admits Normal Windows 10 Users Are 'Testing' Unstable Updates (Original Post) sl8 Dec 2018 OP
K&R UTUSN Dec 2018 #1
I just helped out a friend whose pc was wrecked by Win10 updates. better Dec 2018 #2
So, are you from the Microsoft Security? If so, maybe you could tell me MineralMan Dec 2018 #4
Sure, it's a simple two step process... better Dec 2018 #5
I'm thinking you missed my point... MineralMan Dec 2018 #6
Apparently I did. better Dec 2018 #7
Most people don't like Linux, once they have it. MineralMan Dec 2018 #8
I took care of that by taking the advice of this guy with an accent, MineralMan Dec 2018 #3
When has Microsoft ever shipped a stable Update? hueymahl Dec 2018 #9
there is a feature now in windows Mosby Dec 2018 #10
I won't touch Microsoft Windows unless someone is paying me. hunter Dec 2018 #11

better

(884 posts)
2. I just helped out a friend whose pc was wrecked by Win10 updates.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:58 AM
Dec 2018

Ended up blowing away the whole thing (after salvaging his data) and installing Linux for him, and he's much happier. I for one will not ever be installing (or keeping) Windows 10 on any of my own devices. I'm already in the process of retiring Windows 7 and replacing it with the Zorin OS distribution of Linux for my workstations, and I long ago abandoned Windows Server in favor of Ubuntu and CentOS.

If any of you are nearing the point of being ready to jump ship from MS (or Apple, for that matter), I highly recommend checking out Zorin. It's based on Ubuntu, so support and applications are widely available, and perhaps the best feature of this particular distro is that it can be very easily configured to look and feel like either Mac, Windows, or Ubuntu, so the transition is quite easy and intuitive for users familiar with any of the above.

http://zorinos.com

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
4. So, are you from the Microsoft Security? If so, maybe you could tell me
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:13 PM
Dec 2018

how to get my PC running after I did what you told me on the phone...I must have made a mistake in following your instructions.

better

(884 posts)
5. Sure, it's a simple two step process...
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:23 PM
Dec 2018

Step 1 - Delete Windows.
Step 2 - Install a good operating system!

Obviously that's a bit of , don't delete Windows before backing up your important data! Fortunately, my friend lives 8 miles away and I have plenty of networked drive space that I could use to back up his data and restore it on his new OS.

better

(884 posts)
7. Apparently I did.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:36 PM
Dec 2018

I assumed you were making a joke about the scam MS support calls. Glad it's working out for you, though. For me, it's a consistent PITA everywhere I have to support it. I actually kinda like Windows 7, but everything they've done since then, I can't stand, and at this point Linux does pretty much everything I actually care about better, and it's easier for me to keep running well.

Mainly, I just wanted to let any who share my frustration with MS know about Zorin because it's no/low cost and a pretty painless transition for the average user.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
3. I took care of that by taking the advice of this guy with an accent,
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:11 PM
Dec 2018

who called me the other day:

"I am being Mike, with Microsoft Technical Security Support. I can fix your Microsoft. Just do as I tell you."

Once my Windows PC finally reboots, I can get off my tablet and get back to work.

hueymahl

(2,496 posts)
9. When has Microsoft ever shipped a stable Update?
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:39 PM
Dec 2018

Seriously? It is one continuous bug ridden mess, with fleeting moments of stability just to tease you.

I abandoned them long ago, but I still regularly help family members with this garbage OS. Nothing has changed.

Mosby

(16,311 posts)
10. there is a feature now in windows
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:49 PM
Dec 2018

Where you can roll back "builds" which is whatever latest version your computer has installed.

I haven't had any problems with 10.

hunter

(38,312 posts)
11. I won't touch Microsoft Windows unless someone is paying me.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 06:35 PM
Dec 2018

I use Linux on my own machines. It just works for me. I also have a very inexpensive Chromebook, which is a fine machine for web browsing and writing.

People complain about Microsoft but then they don't do anything about it.








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